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"Friction Grows Between Lawmakers and DOJ Over 'Project Gunrunner' Probe"

We-the-People

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Even better....the ATF's supposed target was an FBI informant who used tax dollars to buy guns for the cartels, apparently with FBI knowledge.

It gets curiouser and curiouser.....and they begin to feed on their own.....Maybe the ATF and DOJ will destroy each other?
 

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Seriously folks, how much more screwed up can the Feds get on this case? This sounds to me like they are once again trying to engage in CYA shenanigans, denying the fact that the FEDS are responsible for the CRIMES that were committed that put these guns in the hands of criminals.

How much more of this will the American people tolerate?

TFred

UN-believable.


U.S. Attorney's Office Rejects Family of Murdered Border Patrol Agent as Crime Victims

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In a surprise move in a controversial case, the U.S. Attorney's Office in Arizona is opposing a routine motion by the family of murdered Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry to qualify as crime victims in the eyes of the court.

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However in this case, U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke argues because the family was not "directly or proximately harmed" by the illegal purchase of the murder weapon, it does not meet the definition of "crime victim" in the Avila case. Burke claims the victim of the Avila's gun purchases, "is not any particular person, but society in general."

Prominent litigator and the former U.S. Attorney in Florida, Kendall Coffey disagrees.

"The government apparently is saying they're not victims, even though it was a federal crime that put the murder weapon in the hands of the killer of Brian Terry," says Coffey. "They are simply rights of respect, rights of communication and the right to be heard."​
 

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The only "friction" that the leadership of BATFE, DEA, and FBI should be experiencing is the friction of handcuffs tightly clamped around their wrists as they are perp-walked into Rikers Island...
 

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Was watching Hannity on FoxNews last night, happened to see a little icon on the screen that said "Fast and Furious, Tomorrow at 9PM".

Sounds like he may be planning a segment on this for his show tonight.

Have not been able to confirm with websites, etc.

TFred
 

Tony4310

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Shame we can't find some General with balls that will rally his troops and show up at the WH, DOJ and ATF with armed soldiers and start taking people in to custody.
 
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SFCRetired

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Shame we can't find some General with balls that will rally his troops and show up at the WH, DOJ and ATF with armed soldiers and start taking people in to custody.
I would not want to see that at all, even given how bad the current regime is.

What I would like to see is a slate of candidates, from Presidential on down, elected to office in November of next year that would rein in our out-of-control government and reduce its size back to something more in line with what the Founding Fathers envisioned. BATFE, DEA, and several other agencies could be very easily eliminated. The IRS and income tax as it is now should be abolished.

Face it, with the reduction in the size of government and with the government removing itself from areas where it has no legitimate (under the Constitution) reason from being, we could have a budget surplus in the trillions instead of the crippling deficit we have now.

I don't think I'll live to see it, though.
 

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Hard to say where this is going to end. Selected snips below.

TFred

Evidence Suggests Cover-Up in ATF Scandal, as More Guns Appear at Crime Scenes

Just hours after the death of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry, federal officials tried to cover up evidence that the gun that killed Terry was one the government intentionally helped sell to the Mexican cartels in a weapons trafficking program known as Operation Fast and Furious.

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Issa and Grassley said they want to speak with Assistant U.S. Attorneys Emory Hurley and Michael Morrissey, along with Patrick Cunningham, chief of the office’s Criminal Division.

Not only do congressional investigators want to "make sense" of details of the operation that allowed more than 2,000 guns to "walk" and later turn up at crime scenes on both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border, but they want to known why Hurley -- who knew almost immediately the guns found at Terry's crime scene belonged to Fast and Furious -- tried to "prevent the connection from being disclosed."

In an internal email the day after the murder, Hurley, and then-U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, decided not to disclose the connection, saying " ... this way we do not divulge our current case (Fast and Furious) or the Border Patrol shooting case."

“The level of involvement of the United States Attorney’s Office … in the genesis and implementation of this case is striking,” wrote Issa and Grassley.
 
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