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18 USC Sec. 930

ocholsteroc

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From the ATF.GOV
I really want to hire a lawyer, If I am reading this correctly... Does it say it is lawful to carry in federal places??, as long as you do not kill someone or harm someone. The law is to help LEO fight crime and violence not enforce silly laws to make law abidding people instant felons. Which some how people got it twisted up... ? I am reading this correctly? :confused::confused::confused::confused:

TITLE I : STATE FIREARMS
CONTROL ASSISTANCE
PURPOSE
Sec. 101. The Congress hereby declares
that the purpose of this title is to
provide support to Federal, State, and
local law enforcement officials in their fight
against crime and violence, and it is not
the purpose of this title to place any undue
or unnecessary Federal restrictions or
burdens on law-abiding citizens with respect
to the acquisition, possession, or
use of firearms appropriate to the purpose
of hunting, trapshooting, target shooting,
personal protection, or any other lawful
activity, and that this title is not intended
to discourage or eliminate the private
ownership or use of firearms by lawabiding
citizens for lawful purposes, or
provide for the imposition by Federal
regulations of any procedures or requirements
other than those reasonably necessary
to implement and effectuate the
provisions of this title
http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-4.pdf


§ 930 Possession of firearms and
dangerous weapons in Federal facilities.
(a) Except as provided in subsection
(d)
, whoever knowingly possesses or
causes to be present a firearm or other
dangerous weapon in a Federal facility
(other than a Federal court facility), or
attempts to do so, shall be fined under
this title or imprisoned not more than 1
year, or both.
(b) Whoever, with intent that a firearm
or other dangerous weapon be used in
the commission of a crime, knowingly
possesses or causes to be present such
firearm or dangerous weapon in a Federal
facility, or attempts to do so, shall be fined
under this title or imprisoned not more
than 5 years, or both.
(c) A person who kills any person in the
course of a violation of subsection (a) or
(b), or in the course of an attack on a
Federal facility involving the use of a firearm
or other dangerous weapon, or attempts
or conspires to do such an act,
shall be punished as provided in sections
1111, 1112, 1113, and 1117.
(d) Subsection (a) shall not apply to—
(1) the lawful performance of official
duties by an officer, agent, or employee
of the United States, a State, or a political
subdivision thereof, who is authorized
by law to engage in or supervise
the prevention, detection, investigation,
or prosecution of any violation of law;
(2) the possession of a firearm or
other dangerous weapon by a Federal
official or a member of the Armed
Forces if such possession is authorized
by law; or (3) the lawful carrying of firearms or
other dangerous weapons in a Federal
facility incident to hunting or other lawful
purposes
.
(e) (1) Except as provided in paragraph
(2), whoever knowingly possesses or
causes to be present a firearm in a Federal
court facility, or attempts to do so,
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned
not more than 2 years, or both.
(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to
conduct which is described in paragraph
(1) or (2) of subsection (d).
(f) Nothing in this section limits the
power of a court of the United States to
punish for contempt or to promulgate
rules or orders regulating, restricting, or
prohibiting the possession of weapons
within any building housing such court or
any of its proceedings, or upon any
grounds appurtenant to such building.
(g) As used in this section:
(1) The term "Federal facility"
means a building or part thereof owned
or leased by the Federal Government,
where Federal employees are regularly
present for the purpose of performing
their official duties. (2) The term "dangerous weapon"
means a weapon, device, instrument,
material, or substance, animate or inanimate,
that is used for, or is readily
capable of, causing death or serious
bodily injury, except that such term
does not include a pocket knife with a blade of less than 2 1/2 inches in
length.
(3) The term "Federal court facility"
means the courtroom, judges' chambers,
witness rooms, jury deliberation
rooms, attorney conference rooms,
prisoner holding cells, offices of the
court clerks, the United States attorney,
and the United States marshal, probation
and parole offices, and adjoining
corridors of any court of the United
States.
(h) Notice of the provisions of subsections
(a) and (b) shall be posted conspicuously
at each public entrance to
each Federal facility, and notice of subsection
(e) shall be posted conspicuously
at each public entrance to each Federal
court facility, and no person shall be convicted
of an offense under subsection (a)
or (e) with respect to a Federal facility if
such notice is not so posted at such facility,
unless such person had actual notice
of subsection (a) or (e), as the case may
be. http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-4.pdf page 26/27
 
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TFred

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This is what you call the big Government Lie. Or equally accurate to say that the Government is allowed to break any laws they want to. I'm not sure what you want to hire a lawyer for though. Unless you have standing, i.e. you have been arrested for violating one of these laws, no court is going to listen to you complain about the big Government Lie.

That is what we mean when we say "nobody wants to be the test case". Even though we know the law is wrong and should not withstand scrutiny, it would be profoundly expensive and very risky to go through the motions. If you happen to get a liberal activist judge who wants to rewrite law from the bench, then you really are in a heap of trouble.

By the time (and many thousands of dollars later) you got in front of the SCOTUS, who knows if there will still be a 5-4 majority who even believes in the Second Amendment.

We are winning, but we really are quite literally hanging by a thread.

TFred
 

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...That is what we mean when we say "nobody wants to be the test case". Even though we know the law is wrong and should not withstand scrutiny, it would be profoundly expensive and very risky to go through the motions. If you happen to get a liberal activist judge who wants to rewrite law from the bench, then you really are in a heap of trouble....TFred

But if you DO want to experiment on yourself, and you've got way too much money lying around, then go ahead and try it - I'll be happy to defend you to your last nickel.
 
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