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    NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund awards Goldberg Case 10k

    THANK YOU TO THE:
    NRA CIVIL RIGHTS DEFENSE FUND

    For those who care, the National Rifle Association Civil Rights Defense Fund (CRDF) has notified Attorney Rachel M. Baird that they will be awarding ten thousand dollars (10k) to the Goldberg vs. Glastonbury appeal currently pending at the Second Circuit Court of Appeals in New York.

    Attorney Rachel M. Baird attended the NRA Convention in Pittsburgh and the meeting of the NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund where she presented the case of Goldberg v. Glastonbury and explained the need to challenge the decsion rendered by U.S. Federal District Judge Underhill regarding OPEN CARRY.

    The NRA CRDF had previously awarded a combined 7.5K to Kuck v. Dannaher and Goldberg v. Danaher cases previously. Both cases were successful at the Second Circuit and are now pending in the U.S. District Court in Hartford.

    For those that are unfamiliar with Goldberg v. Glastonbury, it involved his arrest for Breach of Peace by Glastonbury because his weapons was seen in the Glastonbury Chili's in 2007.

    Watch for more civil litigation on Second Amendment rights here in CT.

    Attorney Rachel M. Baird has been contacted and currently represents several individuals with very interesting constitutional situations that may become public in the future.

    It's comforting to know that the NRA is investing and returning some of our Connecticut dollars in the rights of Connecticut citizens.
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    This is GREAT news!! At least I know where some of my $$$$ has gone, and I can't think of a better cause.

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    Thumbs up

    That's why I'am NRA Member and i support and care for theses main reasons. and also i support CCDL and OPEN CARRY.ORG WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER GUYS and we got work side by side and stick together what ever the outcome we have. CARRY ON/OPEN CARRY. your supporter ALEX.EAST HARTFORD. THANK YOU CCDL AND OPEN CARRY FORUM.

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    The fight is happening in CT and the NRA is recognizing that. Lets just hope we can get through to the people out there saying things like "Why should it be our burden?".

    It is all of our burden. Why should it be anyone's burden alone to fix the decades of willful ignorance of the law by law enforcement and other officials?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich B View Post
    Why should it be anyone's burden alone to fix the decades of willful ignorance of the law by law enforcement and other officials?
    Because we have too many that think because they voted and typed on a computer keyboard, they did their part.

    Out of 173,000 permit holders, how many do you think are actually active in actually doing anything to help us not only defend our rights, but help educate the public that we aren't "nutters" (and that they are their rights too!).

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    www.ctgunsafety.com - my blog and growing list of links useful to gun owners (especially in Connecticut).

    Rich B: My favorite argument against OC being legal in CT is "I have never seen someone OC in CT".
    I have never seen a person drink tea from a coke bottle while standing on their head, that doesn't mean it is illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KIX View Post
    Because we have too many that think because they voted and typed on a computer keyboard, they did their part.
    We also have people in 'the community' who actively protest the idea that many of us giving a little will get us a lot further on the important cases in this state than some of us giving a lot.

    Q: "Why should we have to share the burden?"
    A: "You don't have to. But don't expect to get any reward or progress either."

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    I don't understand that logic either.

    Would the same people give up "a little free speech"? or any other civil right?

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    Rich B: My favorite argument against OC being legal in CT is "I have never seen someone OC in CT".
    I have never seen a person drink tea from a coke bottle while standing on their head, that doesn't mean it is illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KIX View Post
    Would the same people give up "a little free speech"? or any other civil right?
    Well clearly it is just because people who OC (bearing arms - a constitutionally protected right) is 'looking for trouble' and we 'get what we deserve'.

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    I used to think that Goldberg was going to be the poster child for all of this. I have been following him for sometime. Seems Mr. Goldberg often makes certain assertions about his ability and over inflates his experiences. Beyond that, Mr. Goldberg's brother Michael was just convicted of the largest Ponzi scam in CT history. 100 million dollars. I obtained Mr. Goldberg's resume and it clearly states that he was involved in providing armed escort of high priced diamonds while in transit from NY-CT for his brothers company. As some of you may have guessed this was part of the Ponzi scam. there were never any diamonds. They would get investors to invest in the purchase of said diamonds and would eventually receive dividends (from monies obtained from other investors). there were no diamonds, yet Goldberg was somehow providing armed escort of the product, during the time his pistol permit was revoked.
    Mr. Goldberg's resume also claims to have worked as EP (executive protection) for confidential clients while working for Phoenix entertainment, the concert promotion company his brother started with the stolen funds. Relevant part to this discussion are his dates of employment. He was supposedly providing this armed service during the time in which his permit was revoked and during the time he was considered "unsuitable" by DPS. His resume is very clear about the dates. It even adds that he "provided international protection to dignitaries in panama, columbia and puerto rico..." all during the time he was here in CT attempting to get his pistol permit reinstated. Also interesting in all that, as part of his defence, i do recall reading that Goldbergs attorney stated that Goldberg needed the permit for his lively hood. Goldberg claimed to own and operate "Ronin Executive Protection" out of his corporate offices in Glastonbury. I have researched this and can find no evidence of a tax ID number, nothing registered with the SBA or the BBB. Nor anything on manta or with the town of Glastonbury. As a side note, interestingly enough, his employment at Hoffman's Gun Exchange was not on his resume.
    Since his brothers Ponzi scam came crashing down, Goldberg has bugged out of CT and know resides in Vail Colorado. He works as a security guard for Lonestar Security and Safety Services. he perfroms mine security, a static post, and is not armed. In fact, Goldberg bugged out of CT at the same exact time his brother was caught.

    Mr. Goldberg has since began a career in stealing valor, or at least treading very close to it. One of Mr. Goldberg's many quotes. "...call yourself whatever u want....never knew ninjas carry hand guns....now me...I'm what u call a operator..."
    Now mind you, Goldberg has no prior service experience, but you wouldn't know by the way he describes himself. Just the other day he said he was "...going to light some guys up in Delta Training." Reading that you would think he was going to be performing some super cosmic top secret stuff. He would have you think he was training DEVGRU or Delta Force. When in actuality "Delta Training" is Lonestar's new hire orientation program. They teach customer service and so on in this class.
    On and on I could go. Goldberg hater? Maybe now. I used to champion him, but Honor, Courage, and Commitment have been my core values since I proclaimed my allegiance to God and country. Mr. Goldberg's Honor, Courage and Commitment may, in fact, be rather questionable.
    For those who missed his brother's case check this link out.

    http://www.wfsb.com/news/27905602/detail.html

    Now, i don't necessarily mean to attack Goldberg, you know that whole pick your battles thing and all, but i do intend to demonstrate that there may have been more to his suitability issue than he may have let on. Not Saying DPS is in the right, just saying Mr. Goldberg's character is questionable. I understand, the 100 million dollar Ponzi scheme, was perpetrated by his brother Michael, and some will say that doesn't mean James or his twin Jack were party to it, but like i said, his resume clearly outlines some involvement. Further more, the Ponzi Scheme lasted 12 years.

    From what I understand, James and Jack are both being looked into as possible participants in this case. The interstate commerce act is in effect here, as funds were drawn from out of state, as well as emails left on email servers that were located in other states and the same with voicemails. The FBI is involved and is aware of James' and Jack's level of involvement.

    Point of this whole thing, this guy is not the poster boy for our cause. In fact I do believe it may be time to distance ourselves from him. We may get some case law out of this, but this guy was the wrong guy for this fight.

    What do you all think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikerowesoft View Post
    What do you all think?
    I am wondering what you think you are contributing here.

    What have you done for the cause other than attacking someone needlessly?

    Also, where is all this data you are referring to?

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    The legenthy post regarding James Goldberg needs a response so others can see it for what it is.

    There is no justification for what Michael Goldberg did and I can only assume that he kept everyone including his family members in the dark about the legallity of his actions.

    The facts do not change regarding what happened at Chili's in Glastonbury in 2007.

    Every member of the Goldberg family was deceived by Michael Goldberg including James his brother, parents relatives and friends.

    The fact remains that the Glastonbury Police Department was wrong in the way they handled the situation where James Goldberg was legally carrying his firearm.

    The Ponzi scheme run by Michael Goldberg was based on the greed of those who wanted to make money regardless of how it was done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Peruta View Post
    The legenthy post regarding James Goldberg needs a response so others can see it for what it is.

    There is no justification for what Michael Goldberg did and I can only assume that he kept everyone including his family members in the dark about the legallity of his actions.

    The facts do not change regarding what happened at Chili's in Glastonbury in 2007.

    Every member of the Goldberg family was deceived by Michael Goldberg including James his brother, parents relatives and friends.

    The fact remains that the Glastonbury Police Department was wrong in the way they handled the situation where James Goldberg was legally carrying his firearm.

    The Ponzi scheme run by Michael Goldberg was based on the greed of those who wanted to make money regardless of how it was done.
    Ed, you and i have known each other for a fairly good amount of time now. You pride yourself on your investigative abilities and its hard for anyone to write what i wrote, with such specific information, without having been a party close to the case. Perhaps, rather than attempting to shoot holes in the intel provided, you do some digging and post what you find. Most people you and I know respect your opinion, as it usually is germane to the plot of whatever we are discussing.

    It would be one thing, if a guy or gal posted "screw goldberg", but perhaps its another when such specifics are used. Don't Kill the messenger comes to mind?
    Ed, i will contact you offline so we can chat about this.
    I too had hoped the Goldberg thing was just BS, but it is one of those things where moral character needs to be intact, and I'm sorry guys, its just not. We all know Rachel. She is a good lawyer and deserves this money to fight for the cause, but goldberg is not our poster child. For those that are prior service on this board, you all know what I mean when I saw Valor Thief. Goldberg has encroached closer than you think.

    Rich, some of us fought for the "cause" in ways that may not be so apparent to you. I'm glad you stood up for yourself partner. I'm glad you have a forum bounce ideas and your narrative off of, but don't get to big bud. Simply discounting what i wrote as a needless attack, is just silly. I didn't just wake up and decide to pick on the lad. If that had been the case, i probably would have done it a long while ago. He makes himself an easy target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikerowesoft View Post
    Rich, some of us fought for the "cause" in ways that may not be so apparent to you.
    Then make them apparent. This is your second post on this board and you are making some pretty serious accusations against someone (someone not even on this forum to defend themselves, I might add). The conjecture you are supplying amounts to character assassination and I don't see you providing any evidence of what you are saying, even when you are given a chance to do so.

    It is incumbent on you to provide some sort of citations in your post if you are going to be making such accusations against someone. Please feel free to do so. Otherwise, don't expect to be taken seriously.

    And regardless, let me ask you another question: What is your goal/intent here? So you don't feel James Goldberg is a 'poster child'. So what? Most of us don't. I, for one, feel he is another law abiding citizen in CT who was treated like a criminal when doing nothing wrong. And he is fighting against that. That makes him a good citizen to me.

    I see nothing coming of your post, but if I did see anything it would only be a net negative for the entire OC community. Is that your goal? To hurt the OC community?

    but don't get to big bud. Simply discounting what i wrote as a needless attack, is just silly.
    No, silly would be making your second post on a forum an unsubstantiated character assassination and then trying to get 'high and mighty' when someone calls you on it. Cite or retract.
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    Goldberg arrested

    Goldberg arrested on Felony Gun and Drug charges in Colorado. For all my fellow ESI alumni, ESI has blacklisted him from any future events.

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    ...in before Rich delivers the digital double-tap.

    Mike, it was a bad idea to resurrect this thread. Compound that error in judgement with you still not citing a thing to substantiate any new allegations.

    Good luck...

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    a guy with the name GOLDBERG should have plenty of $$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactical9mm View Post
    ...in before Rich delivers the digital double-tap.

    Mike, it was a bad idea to resurrect this thread. Compound that error in judgement with you still not citing a thing to substantiate any new allegations.

    Good luck...
    http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/Cas...e-c8aef87686f8

    James Goldberg arrested for narcotics possession, burglary. Good guy.

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