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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman View Post
    There's already an extensive thread on this in the forum.

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    wheres the thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesCanby View Post
    There's already an extensive thread on this in the forum.
    Oops, musta missed it.

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    So instead of telling the police to stop breaking the law, they are telling us to give up our rights? Thats messed up.

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    I dont think this will last its so unconstitutional, at least I hope it does'nt

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    Seig Heil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman View Post
    Exo 22:2 "If anyone catches a thief breaking in and hits him so that he dies, he is not guilty of murder.
    Luke 22:36: "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luk 11:21 "When a strong man, with all his weapons ready, guards his own house, all his belongings are safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailenforcer View Post
    Seig Heil!

    " The Smell of the Weimar
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    Do I need to say any more?
    Sums it up pretty well...

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    Taken from the article:

    The court's decision stemmed from a Vanderburgh County case in which a man yelled at police and blocked them from entering his apartment to investigate a domestic disturbance. The man shoved a police officer who entered anyway and was shocked with a stun gun and arrested.
    Valparaiso University School of Law professor Ivan Bodensteiner told The Times that the court's decision is consistent with the idea of preventing violence.

    The 4th Amendment uses the verbage "unreasonable search and seizures"
    Let's see, lets make the police go get a search warrant before entering a home to investigate a 911 call of domestic violence....an hour later at best, search warrant arrives and the police find the woman victim bled out. Hypothetical scenario sure but not unrealistic. It is no different than if your mom calls 911 saying she has breathing problems, police and fire arrive and no one answers the door....wait, they can't force entry because they have to get a warrant first.
    Last edited by warrior1978; 05-17-2011 at 11:36 AM.

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    And Now, SCOTUS Weighs In...

    Has the clock been turned back to 1775?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...D5G_story.html

    Apparently, you can still verbally deny entry.
    A law-abiding citizen should be able to carry his personal protection firearm anywhere that an armed criminal might go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior1978 View Post
    Taken from the article:

    The court's decision stemmed from a Vanderburgh County case in which a man yelled at police and blocked them from entering his apartment to investigate a domestic disturbance. The man shoved a police officer who entered anyway and was shocked with a stun gun and arrested.
    Valparaiso University School of Law professor Ivan Bodensteiner told The Times that the court's decision is consistent with the idea of preventing violence.

    The 4th Amendment uses the verbage "unreasonable search and seizures"
    Let's see, lets make the police go get a search warrant before entering a home to investigate a 911 call of domestic violence....an hour later at best, search warrant arrives and the police find the woman victim bled out. Hypothetical scenario sure but not unrealistic. It is no different than if your mom calls 911 saying she has breathing problems, police and fire arrive and no one answers the door....wait, they can't force entry because they have to get a warrant first.
    Exigent Circumstances Clause already covers this - you should know that.

    The ruling says "no resistance is legal" and goes against many previous court decisions.

    The Indiana Supreme Court made a very broad brush ruling here, couple it with the earlier ruling the same week that an Officer can effect a "no-knock" warrant without prior Court Approval.

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    More Fuel For The Fire!

    According to Newton County Sheriff, Don Hartman Sr., random house to house searches are now possible and could be helpful following the Barnes v. STATE of INDIANA Supreme Court ruling issued on May 12th, 2011. When asked three separate times due to the astounding callousness as it relates to trampling the inherent natural rights of Americans, he emphatically indicated that he would use random house to house checks, adding he felt people will welcome random searches if it means capturing a criminal.
    http://smargus.com/indiana-sheriff-i...rches-we-will/

    Yeah, like we didn't see this coming after the rulings...

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    SAFETY is the tyrants tool, for who can be against SAFETY!

    And so it continues and the beat goes on....
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    Surely this will make it to SCOTUS, right?

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    It depends on who has the money to take it there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamaneggs View Post
    It depends on who has the money to take it there!
    I would think the ACLU would be all over this.

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    The ACLU are Socialists.Only if it suits their purpose would they be all over it.
    Today JESUS would tell me to sell my coat and buy two Springfield XD Compact 45acp's!

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