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Thread: California Assembly Proposes to Ban Open Carry of Unloaded Guns

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    Thumbs down California Assembly Proposes to Ban Open Carry of Unloaded Guns

    Vote out those IDIOTS in California! Sooo glad I live in Oregon Now!

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...dfd549b38644cd

    Calif. Assembly bans open carry of unloaded guns
    (AP) 2 days ago

    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) The California Assembly approved a bill Monday to prohibit openly carrying unloaded handguns in public after a debate that pitted gun rights proponents against chiefs of police.

    The bill, AB144, would make it a misdemeanor to carry an exposed and unloaded gun in a public place, street or vehicle except in some unincorporated areas. It was approved 45-29 largely along party lines and moves to the Senate.

    Several states ban openly carrying handguns and at least one applies the ban to unloaded weapons.

    The National Rifle Association was one of several groups that opposed the California bill and reportedly plans to sue if it becomes law

    The bill's author, Democratic Assemblyman Anthony Portantino of La Canada Flintridge, said it will improve public safety. It is supported by the California Police Chiefs Association and the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

    Families shouldn't have to fear for their safety if they're out for a walk and see someone packing a pistol, Portantino said, and police shouldn't have to answer calls to respond to those fears.

    He said a loophole in current law allows people to carry unloaded weapons in public even if they're carrying ammunition on the same belt.

    "You don't need a handgun to order a cheeseburger," he said.

    Gun rights activists say the bill infringes on their right to bear arms guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Some have been carrying unloaded weapons in public as a political statement, including at a protest in Pasadena last month against the legislation.

    "You are disarming our citizens" while doing little to disarm criminals, said Assemblyman Jim Nielsen, R-Gerber.

    "It is not just the right to keep, it is the right to bear arms," said Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, R-Twin Peaks.

    Backers insisted the bill wasn't aimed at hunters or others who responsibly exercise their rights, and insisted it would make police and the public safer by reducing armed confrontations.

    "This is a public safety issue," said Assemblyman Mike Feuer, D-Los Angeles.

    The bill was introduced just days after a shooting in Tucson, Ariz., that killed six people and wounded 13, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. The attack sparked a new round of debate over gun violence.

    The measure passed Monday by the Assembly was similar to a bill defeated in the California Legislature last year.

    Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

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    ... In Democratic-Socialist California, your rights are a public safety issue.

    This bill now goes on to the state Senate committees, State Senate for a vote, then Jerry Brown's Desk (who is in bed with the rest of the Democratic-Socialists) and is expected to sign it.
    Gun control isn't about guns -- it is about control.

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    They are paving the way for the eventual shall issue, I think.

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    We can only wish !!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CA_fr_KS View Post
    They are paving the way for the eventual shall issue, I think.
    Kalifornia will have to become a "Shall Issue" state as other than UOC long rifles Kalifornia has not given its residents any way to protect themselves or their families!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by demnogis View Post
    ...then Jerry Brown's Desk is expected to sign it.
    Citation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe416 View Post
    Citation?
    Agreed. I dont think any one really knows what Brown is capable of. There isnt even any certainty that he won't flip a coin to decide to veto or not. But what we must remember is that Jerry Brown doesnt have to sign a bill for it to take effect. If he doesnt VETO AB144, it will become law whether or not he signs it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe416 View Post
    Citation?
    Personal opinion...
    Gun control isn't about guns -- it is about control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demnogis View Post
    Personal opinion...
    Hey demnogis,

    I am with you.

    Moonbeam is a shrewd politician...usually...until he does something stupid.

    If Jerry can gain political ground (money for neo-Marxist causes) by signing the bill into law, he will.

    If no political ground can be made, Jerry will veto the bill in order to keep 2A supporting democrats in the fold, and keep other 2A supporters from organizing against democrats, and his left-wing cause.

    I really think the decision will be that simple for our Governor. He does not care about the Bill of Rights unless the issue furthers left wing causes.

    Odds are good that he will sign the bill.

    markm

    Citation: 51 years as a Kali resident and 16.4 year survivor of Brown hegemony.
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    apparently this idiot didn't see the McDonald's video of the attack in MD!

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