OC in Nevada

28kfps · Aug 11, 2013

Very cool. A young group now realizing legal firearms is not those nasty guns that aimlessly jump out of their hiding place and with no influence from a human start killing our children as the mainstream media constantly stuffing down the public’s throat. Cool part young ones like to share experiences with others.

77zach · Aug 11, 2013

mp06011999 said:
Awesome experience with a lady with three kids from 6 to 10 in age. The lady very politely asked me if I minded answering her youngest son's question, "Am I carrying a gun to exercise my 2A rights". Wow! I could not believe that. It was not at all what I expected to happen as I saw them eye-balling me everytime I walked up to the buffet.

She went on to explain how her oldest is 19 and in the service and that she forbade him from ever playing with toy guns as a child, but has learned better and now allows her kids to ask questions and make up their own minds - not trying to protect them with "ignorance". Her words! I was blown away. I spent a little time explaining to the 4 of them how I would gladly cc if it were not required to "pay for it" as that no longer makes it a right. That as our birth right as Americans we have the "right to own and carry guns" with no stipulations about if you have a thin piece of material covering it or not and that this oc is my little protest that rights are not to be paid for. It was all very kind and a little simpler than probably what I'm making it sound like here. The 3 kids were glued to what I was saying. The mom was supportive and added a little clarity where needed. By far the VERY BEST oc experience EVER for me. My wife was there as well and could not believe how positive it all was.

Just maybe, knowing how little minds are shaped by every little event in their lives, I made a positive difference. They will all be voters some day and I mentioned "Constitutional Carry" a few times saying, "it is your right". Mom said, "absolutely".

Ya know, where are all the anti-gunners that would otherwise be crying about a mad gunman in a child restaurant endangering the children? Ya won't see this VERY positive experience here on the news.

Wow, most impressive.

Yard Sale · Aug 12, 2013

Dropped off my truck to get it smogged, walked across the street to grab a bite to eat, past some of Sparks PD's finest. Standing in line inside, a guy says he's from California, brought his 1911 with him, and wants to know the Nevada open carry laws. I said there aren't any, except for a few prohibited places, go strap it on.

Returned to the smog place and the guy says he didn't notice I was carrying a gun. (Glock 17, strong side OWB, with spare mag on weak side, hard to miss.) He said he liked seeing armed normal people and asked what I did in banks. I said I conceal in places that post no firearms.

MAC702 · Aug 12, 2013

Yard Sale said:
...asked what I did in banks. I said I conceal in places that post no firearms.

You need a new bank!

SharpShootur · Aug 13, 2013

Need Open Carry Encouragement

Hello everyone! I'm new to this community and BRAND NEW to open carry. I've NEVER done it. I've been reading the posts here and started feeling inspired. Especially about the late "Bear" who was the African-American in Berkeley, CA that open carried before his untimely death and by the gentleman that goes by DkDestroyer who open carries with his family and has a very "firm" opinion on the dress code of an OCer. Well, I'm an African-American who is single with no children of my own. I just loaded the gun with 9mm ammo made by Federal and holstered it at my side...feeling anxious right now. I really don't know what to expect. I've seen numerous videos of police officers stopping and illegally detaining OCers that were not in violation any laws. I've read here in this forum that there are a number of places here in Las Vegas, NV that are indeed friendly to OCers, but I'm concerned that I would not receive such pleasantries.

In short, I'm afraid. :uhoh: Is there anybody present here on the forum that can offer me guidance as well as encouragement to stand up for my 2nd ammendment right?

Thank you all!

DooFster · Aug 13, 2013

I will send you a PM with my contact information...

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mp06011999 · Aug 13, 2013

RE to the first timer

SharpShootur,

I think most of us start out at places we KNOW are oc friendly like Walmart, Starbucks, Lowes, Home Depot, Sam's Club. You may try those. Took me probably a week or two before I quit thinking about it - just carrying like it's completely normal....since it should be.

Welcome.

The Big Guy · Aug 13, 2013

SharpShootur said:
Hello everyone! I'm new to this community and BRAND NEW to open carry. I've NEVER done it. I've been reading the posts here and started feeling inspired. Especially about the late "Bear" who was the African-American in Berkeley, CA that open carried before his untimely death and by the gentleman that goes by DkDestroyer who open carries with his family and has a very "firm" opinion on the dress code of an OCer. Well, I'm an African-American who is single with no children of my own. I just loaded the gun with 9mm ammo made by Federal and holstered it at my side...feeling anxious right now. I really don't know what to expect. I've seen numerous videos of police officers stopping and illegally detaining OCers that were not in violation any laws. I've read here in this forum that there are a number of places here in Las Vegas, NV that are indeed friendly to OCers, but I'm concerned that I would not receive such pleasantries.

In short, I'm afraid. :uhoh: Is there anybody present here on the forum that can offer me guidance as well as encouragement to stand up for my 2nd ammendment right?

Thank you all!

Welcome to our little corner of the world. Pretty much anything you need to know is on here someplace, and what you don't know, all you have to do is ask. Everyone on here will tell
you that you start out a bit nervous but that fades in time. Soon enough you will feel lopsided without your side arm. If you're used to packin' a cannon you will walk in circles when you aren't strapped. Carry with confidence, not arrogance and you will do fine.

TBG

The Big Guy · Aug 13, 2013

It's amazing what people don't know, and are absolutely certain of it...

I had and interesting talk yesterday with a guy I hired to crawl under my kitchen sink and put in a new faucet and garbage disposal. (I'm too old, fat and crippled for such tasks.) It turns out he is a gun nut and reloader. We talked about open carry and he said he had done it a few times but his wife doesn't like it. He also was under the common misconception that there were far too many places where it was illegal, such as banks, casino's, parks and all government buildings. I gave him the skinny on all that but I'm not sure he
believed me.

He was also sure that if he did carry, people would run screaming from the area. He doesn't want to upset people.

He also had the Brady background check and blue card confused. He thought it was all the same thing. He had no idea that Clark County was the only place in the state where registration was required. He thought that the blue card was issued in receipt of the Brady check. He didn't know, and I don't think he still understands that the BG check is not registration. He stated he liked the blue card because if he got pulled over for speeding he could just show his blue card to the cop. He also believes you "HAVE" to carry the blue card with you.

He had never heard of state preemption. This all comes from a life long firearms owner, reloader, prepper and a guy with lots of firearms.

Maybe he learned something.

TBG

28kfps · Aug 14, 2013

SharpShootur said:
Hello everyone! I'm new to this community and BRAND NEW to open carry. I've NEVER done it. I've been reading the posts here and started feeling inspired. Especially about the late "Bear" who was the African-American in Berkeley, CA that open carried before his untimely death and by the gentleman that goes by DkDestroyer who open carries with his family and has a very "firm" opinion on the dress code of an OCer. Well, I'm an African-American who is single with no children of my own. I just loaded the gun with 9mm ammo made by Federal and holstered it at my side...feeling anxious right now. I really don't know what to expect. I've seen numerous videos of police officers stopping and illegally detaining OCers that were not in violation any laws. I've read here in this forum that there are a number of places here in Las Vegas, NV that are indeed friendly to OCers, but I'm concerned that I would not receive such pleasantries.

In short, I'm afraid. :uhoh: Is there anybody present here on the forum that can offer me guidance as well as encouragement to stand up for my 2nd ammendment right?

Thank you all!

Welcome, welcome.
The more you open carry the more confidence you will have. Hope you have uneventful OC experience. May be one of the Las Vegas more seasoned open carry poster could meet up with you for an hour or two and make a visit to Wal-mart, Sams Club or lunch for a test Open Carry run. Hopefully in time you will be posting about may positive OC experiences and able to post lessons learned helpful to others in your situation.
Arm yourself with knowledge of the law that makes you a legal gun owner and legal to open carry. Many postings, clarifications and referances on the laws in our NV. forum threads. Print out the Nevada open carry pamphlet try fold that is posted in the sticky at the top of the Nevada threads. Field Maximus has done a great job of updating it. It can help in an argument when you tell them I have a copy of the laws in my pocket if you want to read them.
Looking forward meeting some day.

28kfps · Aug 14, 2013

The Big Guy said:
I had and interesting talk yesterday with a guy I hired to crawl under my kitchen sink and put in a new faucet and garbage disposal. (I'm too old, fat and crippled for such tasks.) It turns out he is a gun nut and reloader. We talked about open carry and he said he had done it a few times but his wife doesn't like it. He also was under the common misconception that there were far too many places where it was illegal, such as banks, casino's, parks and all government buildings. I gave him the skinny on all that but I'm not sure he
believed me.

He was also sure that if he did carry, people would run screaming from the area. He doesn't want to upset people.

He also had the Brady background check and blue card confused. He thought it was all the same thing. He had no idea that Clark County was the only place in the state where registration was required. He thought that the blue card was issued in receipt of the Brady check. He didn't know, and I don't think he still understands that the BG check is not registration. He stated he liked the blue card because if he got pulled over for speeding he could just show his blue card to the cop. He also believes you "HAVE" to carry the blue card with you.

He had never heard of state preemption. This all comes from a life long firearms owner, reloader, prepper and a guy with lots of firearms.

Maybe he learned something.

TBG

It is amazing how many so-called pro gun owners have allowed themselves to be so brain washed. I guess that is what happens when you limit your knowledge base. I am of the opinion this happens when one uses main stream media, law enforcement and instructors who have proving over and over their willingness to give out information and gun law answers skewed with their own hiding agenda and unsupported opinions.

I enjoy the few times I get into the blue card argument and it gives me great pleasure to tell them I have been carrying a firearm in Las Vegas for over 20 years and never had a blue card and have been stopped by LEOs. Not sure why anyone would want to show their blue card if stopped by a cop.

Glad you had a chance to square him away. I talked to a very young Nye County deputy at a fast food place not that long ago and he thought open carry in Nevada was limited to certain sections of the state and OCing in Las Vegas was an automatic confrontation with METRO.

When I was telling him he was incorrect it appeared he was giving me a “yep, another one of those know-it-all guys” looks. As I was talking to him, I believe he started to realize I knew what I was talking about and he started asking questions. I am hoping he too learned something or at least gave him the motivation to check on the info.

turborich · Aug 14, 2013

SharpShootur,

Welcome to the forum.

After the first few times you do just fine. There are a few members on here who will really be able to offer some great advice.

mp06011999 · Aug 14, 2013

Jury Nullification

I just read the updated pamphlet and a few of the links in it and it got me to thinking that I should tell you guys about Jury Nullification for those unaware. You can google it, but basically it means, "Jury nullification occurs when a jury returns a verdict of "Not Guilty" despite its belief that the defendant is guilty of the violation charged. The jury in effect nullifies a law that it believes is either immoral or wrongly applied to the defendant whose fate they are charged with deciding."

This should be in EVERYONE'S mind because often juries make and / or change laws on the spot by their decisions. So if you are called into jury duty and you do not agree with the laws or how the laws are being used, you have NOT ONLY the power to vote your conscience, but an obligation to do so. Keep that in mind and add it to your arsenal against tyranny.

Since OC is a big part of fighting Blind Obedience and that any of us oc'ers may find ourselves in court in one way or another, I figured this to be enough on-topic.

- We the People...

Grapeshot · Aug 14, 2013

mp06011999 said:
--snipped-- "Jury nullification occurs when a jury returns a verdict of "Not Guilty" despite its belief that the defendant is guilty of the violation charged. The jury in effect nullifies a law that it believes is either immoral or wrongly applied to the defendant whose fate they are charged with deciding."

Or simply refuses to render a verdict = hung jury.

In either event, judges do not like that.

mp06011999 · Aug 14, 2013

we the people

Grapeshot said:
Or simply refuses to render a verdict = hung jury.

In either event, judges do not like that.

No, of course not. They will even instruct you that you must act within the guidelines of "the law" regardless of your personal feelings. But that would be in violation of the law - the Constitution - and what our founding fathers intended of the legal system.

We the people, of the people, by the people, for the people, jury of your peers - all meant to clearly spell out that it is "the people" that make the laws and not judges, lawyers, cops. Your best bet, if you believe that people should be tried by (and laws made by, of and for) "the people" and not individual judges, lawyers, politicians is to vote your conscience and just not tell anyone that you are or you'll probably be dismissed. Grapeshot is correct. Even mentioning "Jury Nullification" during jury selection will probably get you dismissed. But I say be a pawn for no one.

And better yet, think about when people say, "If you don't like the law then change it." Here's a pretty effective way that doesn't require deep pockets. Silly idea, huh. lol
Just imagine if no jury would convict "concealed carry without a license". Of course I don't think a jury would even get to hear that kind of case, but you get the idea.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/opinion/jurors-can-say-no.html?_r=0

Yard Sale · Aug 15, 2013

Jury nullification is why we have bench trials with no right to a jury trial for misdemeanors.

The Big Guy · Aug 15, 2013

Yard Sale said:
Jury nullification is why we have bench trials with no right to a jury trial for misdemeanors.

Which in itself is unconstitutional.

TBG

vegaspassat · Aug 17, 2013

Re: NV OC - how did it go?

Lucky's near 95 and Durango is open carry friendly. One of the owners of the restaurant part is an avid firearm enthusiast. Their pizza is fantastic there. And pretty cheap too at 10 bucks for like a16 inch pie!

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mp06011999 · Aug 17, 2013

vegaspassat said:
Lucky's near 95 and Durango is open carry friendly. One of the owners of the restaurant part is an avid firearm enthusiast. Their pizza is fantastic there. And pretty cheap too at 10 bucks for like a16 inch pie!

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Are they serving food again? You talking about the one up at NORTH Durango area on Farm and Cimmaron?

I went there a month ago and they served no food and didn't have non-smoking, but they didn't say anything about my oc.

vegaspassat · Aug 17, 2013

Re: NV OC - how did it go?

Yup that's the one. My girlfriend's co worker is renting the kitchen with another guy so they are serving food now. They only opened the kitchen about 2 weeks ago

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