OC in Nevada

FallonJeeper said:

Welcome Rollbar!

In addition to wrightme's list these other Fallon businesses have been tested successfully by me:

the Daily Grind

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Is the Daily Grind a coffee shop, a juice bar, or a strip club?

It's a coffe shop that does sell alcohol and has bands at night. Grinding could probably be observed on the dance floor on a Saturday night, but stripping is not likely.

It's funny, sometimes I'll ask my wife if she wants "a grind". Usually I'm talking about coffee.

Meeting at Jerry's with Rollbar @ 11:45

Oh, yes, add Jerry's to my list.

Good meeting, Rollbar picked up the tab. I wasn't going to argue with him. He's packin' a .45, all I had was a .40. ;o)

wrightme said:

RB, here are some that I have had no trouble at:

Big R.
Louie's
Walmart
Radio Shack
LJS/KFC
getting gas at Maverik (I don't go inside).

I like Fallon

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My daughter Ashley is a MGR at Maverik, I might try that next.

FallonJeeper and I had lunch @ Jerry's and the place was kind of full, no questions. Felt a little weird, but also felt good.

A long time ago I worked at a Fla prison in charge or all the electrical/security so I have a habit of checking out people and sitting w/my back to the wall.

My son and I are talking about getting our CCW, but even if I have that I will OC since Nv has both.

FallonJeeper said:

Good meeting, Rollbar picked up the tab. I wasn't going to argue with him. He's packin' a .45, all I had was a .40. ;o)

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That's right :lol:

Nice meeting you, maybe all of us in Fallon can meet somewhere on a Thursday or so and eat while packing. :idea:

There's at least 4 of us here. Sounds like a great idea.

Maybe we could go to Reno 4x4 and ask.

There's a couple Reno 4x4 guys on here too Yotetrapper and jfrey123 to name a couple.

I am all for it. How about I start a topic about a dinner meet?

Well tonight a friend and I were out dumpster diving (before you judge I got a working $150 Keurig) when we got pulled over by Sparks PD over at Scheel's. He asked for both of our Ids and I informed my friend that he was not required to show ID if not operating the vehicle, which he wasn't. The officer then proceeded to tell me I didn't know what I was talking about and I asked him to cite the law that gives him the right to check anyone in a motor vehicles ID. Well needless to say he couldn't but my friend was intimidated and gave it to him. Well he got arrested for some warrants that he is currently trying to take care of and shouldn't have been arrested for. After they took him one officer came to my window and the other to the passenger side to look in and informed the officer talking to me that I am armed and he backed away and pulled his gun. He then told me to keep my hands on the wheel (the whole time pulled over they never left the wheel) and backed away and pulled his gun. He asked me if I had a CCW and when I responded no he asked why I am carrying. I told him I carry because I can. He gave back my ID and said have a good night. My one question is, in Nevada, did my friend have to show his ID?

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hi all, new to opencarry.org and forum. New to handgun ownership and am extremely excited to find this site! I plan to open carry, as it is my right. When i do, i'll add to this very interesting thread! anyway, enjoy reading about the places you guys have been and what has happened. anyone every encourage cops, civs, etc to join this site when you get hassled or stares? just curious! can't wait to learn more about open carry!

renoglock22 said:

Well tonight a friend and I were out dumpster diving (before you judge I got a working $150 Keurig) when we got pulled over by Sparks PD over at Scheel's. He asked for both of our Ids and I informed my friend that he was not required to show ID if not operating the vehicle, which he wasn't. The officer then proceeded to tell me I didn't know what I was talking about and I asked him to cite the law that gives him the right to check anyone in a motor vehicles ID. Well needless to say he couldn't but my friend was intimidated and gave it to him. Well he got arrested for some warrants that he is currently trying to take care of and shouldn't have been arrested for. After they took him one officer came to my window and the other to the passenger side to look in and informed the officer talking to me that I am armed and he backed away and pulled his gun. He then told me to keep my hands on the wheel (the whole time pulled over they never left the wheel) and backed away and pulled his gun. He asked me if I had a CCW and when I responded no he asked why I am carrying. I told him I carry because I can. He gave back my ID and said have a good night. My one question is, in Nevada, did my friend have to show his ID?

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renoglock, my mother-in-law works for metro here in Vegas. I will ask her your question next time i talk to her! But to my understanding, cops have to right to stop, question and request information, ID or run checks on any person. but i'll caveat by saying that i'm not basing this on any facts at the moment, just what i THINK is correct. i'll let you know what my ma-in-law says!

frodo0602 said:

renoglock, my mother-in-law works for metro here in Vegas. I will ask her your question next time i talk to her! But to my understanding, cops have to right to stop, question and request information, ID or run checks on any person. but i'll caveat by saying that i'm not basing this on any facts at the moment, just what i THINK is correct. i'll let you know what my ma-in-law says!

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No, they do not. And, it isn't a good idea to ask LE for legal advice.

I suggest you review with Hiibel v Sixth District, Terry v Ohio, Kolender v Lawson, and Brown v Texas.

frodo0602 said:

...But to my understanding, cops have to right to stop, question and request information, ID or run checks on any person. but i'll caveat by saying that i'm not basing this on any facts at the moment, just what i THINK is correct. i'll let you know what my ma-in-law says!

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Regardless of what she says (though I'm still interested to know), they cannot. Otherwise, we'd be required to CARRY ID when we were not engaged in a licensed activity. Godwin's Law, anyone?

wrightme said:

I am all for it. How about I start a topic about a dinner meet?

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That's a great idea. One for the Fallon folks or Northern Nevada?

wrightme said:

No, they do not. And, it isn't a good idea to ask LE for legal advice.

I suggest you review with Hiibel v Sixth District, Terry v Ohio, Kolender v Lawson, and Brown v Texas.

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so the ma-in-law said yes they have the right to stop anyone, any time, for anything. I read the links you gave me and *edumacation sure be good!* however, who's deciding what is considered "reasonable" when a cop stops me? is there going to have to be a trial for each person that believes they were unreasonably stopped by police officers? thanks for the info, just trying to learn more. teach me

FallonJeeper said:

That's a great idea. One for the Fallon folks or Northern Nevada?

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anyone want to meet up in North Las Vegas?

wrightme said:

No, they do not. And, it isn't a good idea to ask LE for legal advice.

I suggest you review with Hiibel v Sixth District, Terry v Ohio, Kolender v Lawson, and Brown v Texas.

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After I posted here I did some more research and found that court case. I also found this NRS that says the LEO has to have reasonable suspicion that the person is committing a crime. We were not, we were on the road passing through at this point ad I looked at my speedo and was doing the speed limit when he stopped me.

NRS 171.123 Temporary detention by peace officer of person suspected of criminal behavior or of violating conditions of parole or probation: Limitations.

1. Any peace officer may detain any person whom the officer encounters under circumstances which reasonably indicate that the person has committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime.

2. Any peace officer may detain any person the officer encounters under circumstances which reasonably indicate that the person has violated or is violating the conditions of the person’s parole or probation.

3. The officer may detain the person pursuant to this section only to ascertain the person’s identity and the suspicious circumstances surrounding the person’s presence abroad. Any person so detained shall identify himself or herself, but may not be compelled to answer any other inquiry of any peace officer.

4. A person must not be detained longer than is reasonably necessary to effect the purposes of this section, and in no event longer than 60 minutes. The detention must not extend beyond the place or the immediate vicinity of the place where the detention was first effected, unless the person is arrested.