DON`T TREAD ON ME
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I had a nice lunch in boulder City with a friend, as we were getting on the motorcycle to leave, I asked her if she had ever walked on the new "big bridge" she had not, so we went. I had been before and OC'ed with no problems. so I did not expect issues.
When we arrived things seemed normal, I did notice that the "checkpoint dudes" were not rent a cops (wackenhut) any longer. we parked the bike walked up the trail to the bridge and over the george, we took pics etc and headed back.
As we zig zaged down the trail, I noticed a officer (female) who was acting (too much) like she had no agenda, she waited for us to get close, and she approached, I engaged my recording device. (this post is from memory)
Her: "Sir you can't have that here, I need you to cover it with your shirt, and take it to your car."
Me: wouldn't that be illegal?
We went back and forth a little, while I assured her that I was trying to abide by the law and NPS land was a go.
She said she would get me straightend out, and show me the regs, we walked over to her patrol unit, (parked in a handicapped spot) and she pulled out her "brown book) the cheater manual for the regs.
The other Officer, was spouting no guns on federal land, and some other nonsense, so I did not engage him too much. I did hear him say that you are legal up there (on the new bridge) but not down here, I have started my research into this and it appears that reclamation can ban weapons on their land, but is this Mike O' callaghan Pat Tillman memorial visitor center, run or maintained by the Bureau of reclamation.
Any thing in Italics came out of the Code of federal Regulations:
§ 423.30 Weapons, firearms, explosives, and fireworks.
(a) You may possess firearms, ammunition, bows and arrows, crossbows, or other projectile firing devices on Reclamation lands and waterbodies, provided the firearm, ammunition, or other projectile firing device is stowed, transported, and/or carried in compliance with applicable Federal, State, and local law, with the following exceptions:
(1) You must not have a weapon in your possession when at or in a Reclamation facility.
(2) You must comply with any prohibitions or regulations applicable to weapons in a special use area established by an authorized official under subpart E of this part 423.
(b) You must not discharge or shoot a weapon unless you are:
(1) Using a firearm or other projectile firing device lawfully for hunting or fishing as allowed under §423.32, or at an authorized shooting or archery range; and
(2) In compliance with applicable Federal, State, and local law.
(c) You must not use or possess explosives, or fireworks or pyrotechnics of any type, except as allowed by a permit issued pursuant to subpart D of this part 423, or in special use areas so designated by an authorized official under subpart E of this part 423.
So I looked up the definitions also from the CFR's:
Reclamation lands means any real property under the jurisdiction of or administered by Reclamation, and includes, but is not limited to, all acquired and withdrawn lands and lands in which Reclamation has a lease interest, easement, or right-of-way.
Firearm means a device that expels a projectile such as a bullet, dart, or pellet by combustion, air pressure, gas pressure, or other means.
Reclamation facilities, lands, and waterbodies means Reclamation facilities, Reclamation lands, and Reclamation waterbodies.
State and local laws means the laws, statutes, regulations, ordinances, codes, and court decisions of a State and of the counties, municipalities, or other governmental entities which are enabled by statute and vested with legislative authority.
Weapon means a firearm or any other instrument or substance designed, used, or which can be used to cause or threaten to cause pain, injury, or death.
So it looks to be A no go and that I dodged a bullet (pun intended) I will have the recordin posted on Guerrilla Lawfare forum only because I dont know how to do it on here.
I also came accross this little cheat sheet I am trying to link it.
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/crossingguide.pdf
When we arrived things seemed normal, I did notice that the "checkpoint dudes" were not rent a cops (wackenhut) any longer. we parked the bike walked up the trail to the bridge and over the george, we took pics etc and headed back.
As we zig zaged down the trail, I noticed a officer (female) who was acting (too much) like she had no agenda, she waited for us to get close, and she approached, I engaged my recording device. (this post is from memory)
Her: "Sir you can't have that here, I need you to cover it with your shirt, and take it to your car."
Me: wouldn't that be illegal?
We went back and forth a little, while I assured her that I was trying to abide by the law and NPS land was a go.
She said she would get me straightend out, and show me the regs, we walked over to her patrol unit, (parked in a handicapped spot) and she pulled out her "brown book) the cheater manual for the regs.
The other Officer, was spouting no guns on federal land, and some other nonsense, so I did not engage him too much. I did hear him say that you are legal up there (on the new bridge) but not down here, I have started my research into this and it appears that reclamation can ban weapons on their land, but is this Mike O' callaghan Pat Tillman memorial visitor center, run or maintained by the Bureau of reclamation.
Any thing in Italics came out of the Code of federal Regulations:
§ 423.30 Weapons, firearms, explosives, and fireworks.
(a) You may possess firearms, ammunition, bows and arrows, crossbows, or other projectile firing devices on Reclamation lands and waterbodies, provided the firearm, ammunition, or other projectile firing device is stowed, transported, and/or carried in compliance with applicable Federal, State, and local law, with the following exceptions:
(1) You must not have a weapon in your possession when at or in a Reclamation facility.
(2) You must comply with any prohibitions or regulations applicable to weapons in a special use area established by an authorized official under subpart E of this part 423.
(b) You must not discharge or shoot a weapon unless you are:
(1) Using a firearm or other projectile firing device lawfully for hunting or fishing as allowed under §423.32, or at an authorized shooting or archery range; and
(2) In compliance with applicable Federal, State, and local law.
(c) You must not use or possess explosives, or fireworks or pyrotechnics of any type, except as allowed by a permit issued pursuant to subpart D of this part 423, or in special use areas so designated by an authorized official under subpart E of this part 423.
So I looked up the definitions also from the CFR's:
Reclamation lands means any real property under the jurisdiction of or administered by Reclamation, and includes, but is not limited to, all acquired and withdrawn lands and lands in which Reclamation has a lease interest, easement, or right-of-way.
Firearm means a device that expels a projectile such as a bullet, dart, or pellet by combustion, air pressure, gas pressure, or other means.
Reclamation facilities, lands, and waterbodies means Reclamation facilities, Reclamation lands, and Reclamation waterbodies.
State and local laws means the laws, statutes, regulations, ordinances, codes, and court decisions of a State and of the counties, municipalities, or other governmental entities which are enabled by statute and vested with legislative authority.
Weapon means a firearm or any other instrument or substance designed, used, or which can be used to cause or threaten to cause pain, injury, or death.
So it looks to be A no go and that I dodged a bullet (pun intended) I will have the recordin posted on Guerrilla Lawfare forum only because I dont know how to do it on here.
I also came accross this little cheat sheet I am trying to link it.
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/crossingguide.pdf
