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    GRNC Alert 5-23-11: HB 650, Massive Gun Bill in House

    Grass Roots North Carolina, P.O. Box 10665, Raleigh, NC 27605, 919-664-8565,

    GRNC Alert 5-23-11:
    HB 650, Massive Gun Bill in House

    Last Wednesday, the NC House Judiciary C Committee took on House Bill 650, "Amend Various Gun Laws." Thanks to the efforts of Sponsors Mark Hilton (R-Catawba, GRNC ****), Steven LaRoque (R-, ****), George Cleveland (R- Onslow, ****) and Kelly Hastings (R- Cleveland, Gaston, ****), plus the leadership of Rules Chairman Tim Moore (R- Cleveland, ****) and Speaker Thom Tillis (R-Meckleburg, ****), the bill is likely to receive a committee vote this Wednesday. Gun rights supporters should immediately e-mail these courageous legislators with thanks, especially Speaker Thom Tillis.

    HB 650 is a huge and aggressive bill, meaning it will be difficult to pass. But if passed, it will go far toward reversing the creeping encroachment on gun owners' rights perpetuated in previous sessions of the legislature, including (but not limited to):

    * Castle Doctrine (yet another vehicle for popular Castle Doctrine is now moving);
    * Reducing penalties for carrying firearms on "educational property," including a protection against accidentally becoming a criminal by requiring that offenders "knowingly" brought the gun onto educational property;
    * Enabling concealed carry at events for which admission is charged;
    * Reducing penalties for a host of minor (often inadvertent) gun violations;
    * Adding protections for gun owners whose guns are confiscated pursuant to domestic protective orders;
    * Improves concealed handgun reciprocity to straight recognition of out-of-state permits;
    * Removes provisions for concealed handgun applicants under which sheriffs are conducting intrusive investigations of medical history; and
    * Enabling employees to keep guns in locked vehicles at places of employment.


    As Chairman Moore brought up the bill, Rep. Hilton pointed out that it simply attempted to mirror and conform with federal law. Opposition was brought by the usual leftists, including Joe Hackney (D- Chatham, Moore, Orange, GRNC 0-star), Verla Insko (D-Orange, 0-star) and Jennifer Weiss (D-Wake, 0-star). Reps. Hilton, Cleveland, Hastings and Jonathan Jordan (R- Ashe, Watauga, ****) did an outstanding job of defending it. Thanks also go to Chairman Moore for allowing GRNC president Paul Valone to dispel numerous misconceptions regarding state and federal gun laws.


    * E-MAIL THANKS to Speaker Thom Tillis
    * CONTACT JUDICIARY THE C COMMITTEE MEMBERS as listed below and urge them to support HB 650, pointing out that they MUST attend the meeting on Wednesday to vote for the bill. Johnathan Rhyne, Jr. - 919-733-5782,; Rayne Brown - 919-715-0873,; Jimmy Dixon - 919-715-3021,; Bert Jones - 919-733-5779,; Jonathan C. Jordan - 919-733-7727,

    * SEND US YOUR STORIES: By reducing the number of "no carry" zones, including accidentally carrying firearms onto "educational property" (including places that are not even campuses), the bill seeks to allow law-abiding gun owners to remain law abiding. To support the bill, please send examples of when you accidentally violated gun laws despite your best efforts. All stories will be de-identified before distribution. Send them directly to Paul Valone at


    Dear Representative:

    I am writing to express my support for HB 650, "Amend Various Gun Laws." Your support is instrumental in passing the many important measures in this sweeping bill. In order to achieve this, it is vital that you attend the Judiciary Sub Committee C meeting on Wednesday and give your full support to HB 650.

    I will be eagerly awaiting a positive outcome for this bill Wednesday and will be tracking its progress through the alerts of Grass Roots North Carolina.


    A Concerned North Carolina Voter

    BATFE After Your Rights (Again)...

    Multiple Sales Under Attack - Comments Reopened

    The ATF has reopened comments on their plan to register multiple sales of some (that's how it always starts) rifles. This serious threat from the ATF needs to be stopped. Back in January your comments were invaluable at preventing the "emergency designation" but the Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG) reflector provided over 9,000 comments later in the comment period. This time, you the gun owner must do better.

    Please log comments and spread the word to all your colleagues to do the same. There is no doubt that BATFE is a determined crew. We must be more determined.


    * Contact the BATFE and log your comments:
    * Contact your own congressional representative by going to:


    [Insert Salutation]

    I am writing to oppose the Information collection action to register multiple sales of certain rifles with BATFE from the 04/29/2011 Federal Register:

    This information collection is both illegal and unnecessary.

    * The action proposed is outside the statutory grant of authority to record information about multiple sales of firearms. Title 18 U.S.C. ? 923(g)(3)(A) specifically grants the authority to collect multiple sale information on handguns and revolvers. Other firearms are excluded and there is no implied authority to extend this reporting requirement to rifles or any other type of firearm.

    * Analysis of the number of firearms seized shows that Mexico is being primarily supplied with firearms by South American countries, NOT the United States. In fact, a STRATFOR report indicates that fully 90% of of the firearms traced in Mexico are NOT coming from the United States, contrary to assertions in the mainstream media:
    Additionally, Wikileaks cables have shown the US Government is at least partially responsible for supplying Mexico from the United States: These firearms are NOT from the US commercial market.

    * Source documents of the BATFE uncovered by US Senator Grassley and US Representative Issa show that BATFE has been complicit in supplying Mexican Narco-terrorist forces with firearms:

    * FFL holders are already required by law to respond to BATFE requests for information on firearms distribution pursuant to criminal investigations: Title 18 U.S.C. ? 923(g)(7).

    * The regulation contains no provision for the destruction of information collected, which establishes a nationwide registry of ?certain types of firearms? as proposed. Because of this the regulation, as proposed, is illegal under Title 18 U.S.C. ? 926(a). ?No such rule or regulation ? may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established.?

    There is a grave potential for this regulation to unduly burden citizens who are collectors or must obtain purchase permits at the local or state level to possess firearms. The proposed regulation does not say what the agency intends to do with the information but ostensibly it would be for criminal investigations. Subjecting law abiding gun owners to this type of investigation under the guise of "information collection" is an overt attempt to prevent them from exercising their 2nd Amendment rights to purchase and own firearms.

    This regulatory action should not be approved.


    You may find your NC STATE representative by going here:

    You may write your FEDERAL congressman by going here:

    You may write your FEDERAL senators by going here:
    Support these PRO RKBA merchants who, as GRNC sponsors, are supporting your Second Amendment rights:

    Hyatt Gun Shop, 3332 Wilkinson Blvd., Charlotte, NC 28208, 704-394-0387,
    C & E Gun Shows, 4225 Fortress Drive, Blacksburg, VA 24060; Phone 540-953-0016 or 888-715-0606;
    Dixie Gun and Knife Shows, PO Box 21049, Raleigh, NC 27619, ph: 919-781-1287,
    Ryan & Nina Leonard, Down South Ammo, Home of "SOUTHERN THUNDER" Exploding Targets,
    Duncan Gun & Pawn, 414 Second St., North Wilkesboro, NC 28659, 336-667-6303,
    Shooter's Express, 2 Caldwell Dr., Belmont, NC 28012, 800-358-GUNS,
    The Aisle Pawn Shop, 216 N. Main St., Mooresville, NC 28115, 704-663-5656
    Gunner's Alley, LLC, 203 N. Harrison Ave., Ste. 130, Cary, NC 27513,, 919-388-1991, contact: Ed Guerriero,
    Patrick J. Phelan, Lake Norman Firearms, Inc., 20823 N. Main Street, Cornelius, NC 28031,, 704-892-7839
    Vanguard Security Consulting, LLC, 19135 W. Catawba Ave, Cornelius, NC 28031
    DoubleD Media, 8300 Raintree Lane, Charlotte, NC 28277, ph: 704-650-5555, fx: 704-544-0326,

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    Thanks for keeping us updated and putting all the contacts in one spot. Makes it much easier to help out.
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