hey firemark; i enjoyed the way you all stood up against the 12031E Violations, i was just Proud!
i study california regularly, and know what you guys have to abide by.
i wish i knew who all the players were in your vid,
i know most of the screen names of the players in california,
but its nice to put names to faces,
BTW my name is Bob and my avatar is a pic of me.
The real reason im writing to you now is, your camera has the wrong date!!
not only is it showing European time stamp, BUT it is one DAY off!
it said 29/5/11, but it was taken on 28/5/11
Im a NIT picking fuddy duttier,
my only recommendation for future encounters would be to point out
to the cops that, they are "allowed" to conduct a 2031 e check,BUT
they are never "Required" to conduct the inspection,
after all two out of three of you were good to go,
based of your trustworthy testimony that your gun was unloaded!
Yes try as I might, I have spent many hours trying to fix the time stamp software, the company is not helpful with tech support, so FWIW time stamp cant be altered, but the video still works and its very unobtrusive.
In previous encounters, when LE is receptive and patient to conversation, we inform them of many things regarding UOC including: authorized not required, racially biased law, 4th Ammend violation, other states LE have no issue with open carry, etc... In this instance the feeling I got from theses officers was confusion and a strong desire to get the check over with, and stop drawing attention from the crowd. In reality, many of them probably recieved a training memo on how to deal with UOC'rs but many of them couldnt remember the details how to do it, There was even some confusion on their part of the definition of "consent" and "refusal". Thats why it is important to try and read whats going on with the LE and adjust UOC behavior to affect a positive outcome. We could have been harder on them or made it more difficult but in this instance that would have probably steered the incident in a negative direction. To me its important to remember while standing up for your rights, when the situation calls for it, also be an upstanding law abiding citizen and help out LE, dont make their job harder and then resent you... If they are trying to be civil and professional, reciprocate. If however, they are abusing their station and authority then take a different tactic.
Hearts and minds.
By the way people came up after the check and detainment and were very supportive of how we handled it and wanted to learn more about UOC.