Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: 12 Officers Respond to MWAG Call at Nor Cal Mall

  1. #1
    Regular Member Lawful Aim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    129

    12 Officers Respond to MWAG Call at Nor Cal Mall

    It appears to be a case of false reporting but is an indicator of what to expect if one doesn't utilize a holster. Could someone be trying to stir the pot on AB144?


    Woman makes up story about armed man at Mountain View Sears

    By Jesse Dungan

    Daily News Staff Writer

    Posted: 05/23/2011 08:48:03 PM PDT
    Updated: 05/23/2011 08:48:05 PM PDT


    Police are searching for a woman who made up a story about a man with a handgun at the Mountain View Sears on Monday.
    A dozen officers, some of them armed with semi-automatic rifles, descended on the San Antonio Shopping Center at about 2 p.m. after the woman told police over the phone she had seen a man in his 30s walking through the store with a pistol tucked into his waistband.
    "They were very detailed in the call about what the person looked like and where they were inside Sears," said Mountain View police spokeswoman Liz Wylie.
    The woman, however, suddenly hung up and did not pick up the phone when police called her back, Wylie said.
    "Pretty early on we started to become suspicious it was a prank call," Wylie said.
    Because police were suspicious of the call and the woman said the man appeared to be leaving the store, officers didn't evacuate customers and employees, according to Wylie. Police reviewed surveillance footage to confirm the report was bogus, she said.
    Authorities are working to identify the caller, who could face a charge of making a false report of an emergency.
    The police response involved 10 officers from Mountain View and two from Palo Alto, according to Wylie.
    http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_18125071
    The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it. -Albert Einstein
    Liberty that was diminished in increments has never been restored by the same. -Lawful Aim
    One who compromises in steps toward freedom will always be compromising. -Lawful Aim
    It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds. -Samuel Adams

  2. #2
    State Pioneer ConditionThree's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Shasta County, California, USA
    Posts
    2,231
    Perhaps it was Karen Arntzen trying to gin up support since the Brady Campaign doesnt have heavily populated bay area UOC events to protest.

    This story is a stark contrast to the response to UOC elsewhere in the state, which scarcely raised an eyebrow at a function where state, county and city law enforcement were all in attendance.
    Last edited by ConditionThree; 05-24-2011 at 11:52 AM.
    New to OPEN CARRY in California? Click and read this first...

    NA MALE SUBJ ON FOOT, LS NB 3 AGO HAD A HOLSTERED HANDGUN ON HIS RIGHT HIP. WAS NOT BRANDISHING THE WEAPON, BUT RP FOUND SUSPICIOUS.
    CL SUBJ IN COMPLIANCE WITH LAW


    Support the 2A in California - Shop Amazon for any item and up to 15% of all purchases go back to the Calguns Foundation. Enter through either of the following links
    www.calgunsfoundation.org/amazon
    www.shop42a.com

  3. #3
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    204
    Quote Originally Posted by ConditionThree View Post
    Perhaps it was Karen Arntzen trying to gin up support since the Brady Campaign doesnt have heavily populated bay area UOC events to protest.

    This story is a stark contrast to the response to UOC elsewhere in the state, which scarcely raised an eyebrow at a function where state, county and city law enforcement were all in attendance.
    "...with a pistol tucked into his waistband."

    This is probably the reason.

  4. #4
    State Pioneer ConditionThree's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Shasta County, California, USA
    Posts
    2,231
    Quote Originally Posted by CA_fr_KS View Post
    "...with a pistol tucked into his waistband."

    This is probably the reason.
    I doubt that the difference in response had much to do with the fact my pistol was secured in a holster and the reported gun was not. I would surmise that the difference is between the hand wringing, anti-gun chicken littles of the bay area and sane, rational human beings.
    New to OPEN CARRY in California? Click and read this first...

    NA MALE SUBJ ON FOOT, LS NB 3 AGO HAD A HOLSTERED HANDGUN ON HIS RIGHT HIP. WAS NOT BRANDISHING THE WEAPON, BUT RP FOUND SUSPICIOUS.
    CL SUBJ IN COMPLIANCE WITH LAW


    Support the 2A in California - Shop Amazon for any item and up to 15% of all purchases go back to the Calguns Foundation. Enter through either of the following links
    www.calgunsfoundation.org/amazon
    www.shop42a.com

  5. #5
    Regular Member coolusername2007's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Temecula, California, USA
    Posts
    1,660
    Depending on where this whole thing goes (or doesn't go), maybe a PRAR is in order.
    "Why should judicial precedent bind the nation if the Constitution itself does not?" -- Mark Levin

  6. #6
    Regular Member hgreen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Centreville, VA
    Posts
    470
    Quote Originally Posted by CA_fr_KS View Post
    "...with a pistol tucked into his waistband."

    This is probably the reason.
    That shouldn't make a difference from a police response standpoint. But we are in CA...

    In most parts of the country, if the gun is visible, its open carry.

    When I was in Virginia a few weeks back at an open carry dinner, about 1/3 of the 30 people there were OCing that way.

  7. #7
    Regular Member Superlite27's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    God's Country, Missouri
    Posts
    1,279
    Authorities are working to identify the caller, who could face a charge of making a false report of an emergency.
    Even if she had seen a man with a firearm.....

    ...how is that an emergency?

    Anyone calling cops without a firearm being discharged should be prosecuted for this.
    Last edited by Superlite27; 05-26-2011 at 11:00 AM.

  8. #8
    Regular Member MKEgal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    in front of my computer, WI
    Posts
    4,426
    Quote Originally Posted by hgreen
    When I was in Virginia a few weeks back at an open carry dinner, about 1/3 of the 30 people there were OCing that way.
    Simply tucked into the waistband???
    That's not a safe way to carry, & (back to appearances) it's what criminals do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Superlite27
    Even if she had seen a man with a firearm... how is that an emergency?
    Anyone calling cops without a firearm being discharged should be prosecuted for this.
    I agree with the first part, not the second.
    If someone's being belligerant, waving it around, pointing it at people, generally being threatening, I see no problem with calling police (& taking cover or leaving the area).
    We've had a few agencies, getting a MWAG call, that ask "what is the person doing with the gun?" and when they're told it's in a holster & the person is (drinking coffee, having dinner, shopping) they let the caller know that that's not illegal.

  9. #9
    Regular Member hgreen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Centreville, VA
    Posts
    470
    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Simply tucked into the waistband???
    That's not a safe way to carry, & (back to appearances) it's what criminals do.
    They all had IWB holsters. Look up "Virginia Tuck".

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •