Told by Walmart manager can not buy ammo while OC

Curmudgeon · May 25, 2011

fire suppressor said:
I remember when I was growing up Walmart use to sell guns, at least the ones near me haven't in years anyone know why that is

FWIW, the WalMart stores in PA still do.

Badger Johnson · May 25, 2011

For some reason they stopped after 9/11, and pulled all gun sales. Not sure of the rationale.

carry for myself · May 25, 2011

Badger Johnson said:
For some reason they stopped after 9/11, and pulled all gun sales. Not sure of the rationale.

cause they want us to not be able to defend ourselves against box cutter wielding jerks :-D lol

Sparky508 · May 25, 2011

Was reading somewhere, I'll look for it later, that they will start stocking more stores with them again. Something to do with getting more men in the store or some such monkey bussines. Some of the stores around here still do.

Bill Starks · May 25, 2011

I had this issue carrying my 1911 when i went to buy some 16ga rounds. The manager wasn't going to sell to me while I was carrying. I said fine. I went and got a cart and started loading up the 100rd packs of 12ga that was on a end cap. he finally saw the logic and sold me the 16ga rounds but then had to escort me to the front door.

Why are the 16 & 20ga rounds locked up but not the 12ga?

amzbrady · May 25, 2011

Tawnos said:

I almost posted that pic, but it had bad words in it and figured I'd get slammed by someone.

Vanfanel · May 25, 2011

Fire Suppressor, I notice your in Kitsap county was this the one in poulsbo or bremerton?
I have never bought ammo at bremerton but never had any problems at the poulsbo one. and as to your other post about used to have guns. I was in there talking with them about a week ago and they will have rifles and shotguns back in around july.

Difdi · May 25, 2011

M1Gunr said:
I had this issue carrying my 1911 when i went to buy some 16ga rounds. The manager wasn't going to sell to me while I was carrying. I said fine. I went and got a cart and started loading up the 100rd packs of 12ga that was on a end cap. he finally saw the logic and sold me the 16ga rounds but then had to escort me to the front door.

Why are the 16 & 20ga rounds locked up but not the 12ga?

He didn't want to sell you ammo while carrying because you might load up and use it...a better question would be how do you load even a 20ga shell into a 1911, let alone a 16 or 12?

fire suppressor · May 25, 2011

Poulsbo

Ajetpilot · May 25, 2011

I'm curious, too. I never had a problem in Port Orchard. Which store was it? I want to go test "the system".

hermannr · May 25, 2011

If you get a response from the guy, as him if he just moved here from California? Hollywood maybe. Why else would he think you pistol was unloaded?

tombrewster421 · May 25, 2011

fire suppressor said:
I remember when I was growing up Walmart use to sell guns, at least the ones near me haven't in years anyone know why that is

The Wal-Marts in Pierce County still sell guns but the one in Yelm doesn't. Not sure if it's a Thurston County thing as the only one in Thurston County I've been to is Yelm.

JoeSparky · May 25, 2011

Send the Walmart Home office a very nice letter including the manager's name telling them how much you really appreciate the special attention to YOUR SAFETY while you where shopping after you purchased your ammo.

After all, he did watch over your safety exclusively---- probably could have got him to PUSH YOUR CART for you also! LOL

Whitney · May 26, 2011

Company Policy????

I had a similar experience in this same store. I was buying .22WMR and the salesman (young man 20 something) asked me if it was pistol ammunition. To which I repied "no". He explained it was store policy and had to ask.
????
What difference does it make if I am buying ammunition for a pistol or rifle? I did not get asked about the 30-30 cartridges which must obviously be rifle ammunition. Does anyone know if this is a "store policy" or corporate policy ?

~Whitney

silver · May 26, 2011

It is probably both, most people are smart enough to distinguish between them (the ammunition) however and consequently not too many people ask.

Any way the reason he has to ask it that its federal law that any body under 21 cannot buy handgun ammunition from a dealer. so technically if you were buying 22lr and were between 18-20 and were planning on putting it through say a walther p22 and informed the dealer that it was being bought to use a pistol, the dealer would technically be breaking the law in selling it to said 18-20 year old.

and just to rant..WTF is the dual age limit for? i could go sign my name away on a military contract then be dumped in the giant IED field in the middle eastern sand box but i cant buy a handgun or its ammo from a dealer in this country? Whose genius freggin idea was that?

OrangeIsTrouble · May 26, 2011

silver said:
Any way the reason he has to ask it that its federal law that any body under 21 cannot buy handgun ammunition from a dealer.

Not picking on you, but could you cite that law?

Anyways, as for store policy, I remember doing a bunch of google fu-ing after I was denied .22LR (rifle ammo!!!) at the renton walmart by some douchebag.

I can't pick which one was the correct one but there's two procedures floating in my thoughts;

1. 18-20 customer rings up some .22lr/whatever, the machine prompts the cashier to ask if it is for rifle or pistol and then asks for birthdate.

2. 18-20 customer rings up .22lr, the machine first asks if customer is 21, which the cashier HAS to press no, AND THEN the machine asks if 18 which the cashier then hits yes. And then asks for birthdate.

I think it was the 2nd procedure now that I think about it because I remember the douchebag stopped at the 21 screen and wouldn't even hit no and refused to go on, even though I was telling them it was legit and all.

xxx.jakk.xxx · May 26, 2011

GreenIsFaster said:
Not picking on you, but could you cite that law?

Anyways, as for store policy, I remember doing a bunch of google fu-ing after I was denied .22LR (rifle ammo!!!) at the renton walmart by some douchebag.

I can't pick which one was the correct one but there's two procedures floating in my thoughts;

1. 18-20 customer rings up some .22lr/whatever, the machine prompts the cashier to ask if it is for rifle or pistol and then asks for birthdate.

2. 18-20 customer rings up .22lr, the machine first asks if customer is 21, which the cashier HAS to press no, AND THEN the machine asks if 18 which the cashier then hits yes. And then asks for birthdate.

I think it was the 2nd procedure now that I think about it because I remember the douchebag stopped at the 21 screen and wouldn't even hit no and refused to go on, even though I was telling them it was legit and all.

I know I'm not who you were talking to since I haven't been in here, but I have been told to cite before and it can be hell to find cites sometimes. Lol

So, I believe it would be this one...

18 USC § 922 (b)(1)

(b) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell or deliver—
(1) any firearm or ammunition to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than eighteen years of age, and, if the firearm, or ammunition is other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or rifle, to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than twenty-one years of age;

Are my google powers adequate? Lol

As for buying ammunition while OCing, I have purchased 12ga and .40s&w ammunition while OCing and OCed while a friend OCed and bought his .45 ammo. This was at the Port orchard branch. Also, our walmart is upgrading to a super walmart, so hopefully they will start to stock guns and a larger ammo supply.

END_THE_FED · May 26, 2011

amzbrady said:
Common Sense is almost a super power anymore. Only certain people have it. To bad it cant be taught in school.

I have begun referring to it as "uncommon sense" because I find that it aint all that common.

Bill Starks · May 26, 2011

<edit> I started this post just after 11pm and thought I hit send... I'm late to the party as Jakk beat me to it

As federal and state laws mandate, there are certain regulations and restrictions regarding the sales and purchasing of ammunition. Ammunition sales are only to be made to those who are qualified under state and federal law. Federal law only requires that a person be at least the age of 18 to purchase ammunition for rifles and shotguns, and 21 for the purchase of ammunition for handguns. An eligible person must also be legally allowed to possess a firearm to purchase ammunition, which means no felony convictions, no history of violent crimes, no history of substance abuse, and a legal resident of the United States. Certain states reinforce these criteria by raising the age requirements, or adding stipulations regarding certain crimes.

18 USC § 922. Unlawful acts
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/922.html

.45ACPaddy · May 26, 2011

I say the damn laws are too damn complicated... How about reverting to constitutional law?

"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

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