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    "As Wisconsin considers CCW, it could take lesson from Washington"

    http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-i...rom-washington

    Last year, Seattle reported 19 homicides. Milwaukee logged 94 homicides. Washington citizens have exercised concealed carry since 1933. Open carry has been legal since Washington was a territory, and has remained that way under Article 1, Section 24 of the State Constitution, enacted with statehood in November 1889.
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    WI panel OKs gun bill; columnist shows bankruptcy of anti-CCW mindset

    Concealed carry took a huge step forward in Wisconsin yesterday as the Senate Judiciary Committee approved legislation that would allow “constitutional carry” of defensive sidearms by private citizens without first getting a permit.



    http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-i...ti-ccw-mindset

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Workman
    WI panel OKs gun bill; columnist shows bankruptcy of anti-CCW mindset.
    Here's Eugene Kane's column, which is quoted in the Examiner linked above.
    "Contact Eugene Kane at (414) 223-5521 or ekane@journalsentinel.com"

    three men entered the crowded La Piazza bar and restaurant Monday night and opened fire, killing 30-year-old Luis Santiago and wounding another man
    No, there was one shooter.
    He was already in the bar, drinking, and was upset that the murdered guy picked up the wrong beer.
    Whadayawannabet that the killer:
    1) didn't have permission to be in the bar armed,
    2) was "materially impaired",
    3) carried concealed,
    4) wasn't in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm?
    Someone who's willing to murder someone over a beer isn't going to be swayed by laws, or get a permit, or get training.

    the anxiety many city dwellers feel about becoming a victim of random crime
    One reason to carry & protect myself. Thank you Mr. Kane.

    only a handful (four) have the more extreme constitutional carry law. I see no pressing reason for Wisconsin to jump onto that particular bandwagon
    Um, how about to save millions of dollars?
    Since Constitutional Carry hasn't caused problems anywhere else, why would it be a bad idea here?

    I think a flawed gun law that encourages citizens to protect themselves but doesn't require permits or training is a bad idea
    What problems have been caused by citizens who now carry openly?

    I'm not talking about the police crimes committed in Racine, West Allis, Brookfield, & Madison, but by citizens.

    Who's been wrongfully shot, who's been accidentally shot, and how would requiring training change that? (It wouldn't since nothing bad has happened. And no, I don't think Jesus' shooting was bad. I think he defended himself within the law.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Someone who's willing to murder someone over a beer isn't going to be swayed by laws, or get a permit, or get training.
    That sums it up very well.

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