After spending about 30 mins browsing and picking up some books, I was stopped on the way out. Now keep in mind that the security guard in question shadowed me for most of the 30 mins. Only as I was on my way out nearly out the door did he say something. I didnt get the first few seconds on recording but did get most of it. He said to me what in the case. It is clearly a open top holster. A Bianchi carry Lok. http://www.bianchi-intl.com/product/...?TxtModelID=82 I responded with non of your business and continued on out the door. He followed and said something. I turned around and hit record on my phone. I thought I had got the video but hit audio only.
well I am a idiot. I played it back while in the car, but I seem to have deleted it or recorded over it. Yes I am a audio engineer by trade and I screwed this u.
It went something like this.
I turned and asked if he had a question and informed him I was recording.
He replied that I can have a firearm.
I asked do you see one?
he said no.
I said is it against the law to have a empty holster.
He said no but that I couldnt have a metal clip.
I said what metal clip?
He pointed at the PLASTIC carry lok and said does that look like a trigger to you?
I laughed and said not in any way.
I asked for his name and who he worked for and he turned his back to me and when I went to his front he covered his badge and name tag. I asked his partner who had been silent and in some sort of shock for the same info. The old guy said dont talk to him.
As I was outside and walking away he made a kissing sound at me. I turned because I wasnt sure it was him as I had sen some one else in the same space. I asked the man walking out if that was the guard who made that sound? He said yes.
I am still searching my phone for any trace of the audio if I find it I will post it.
All I can say is wow. Kissing sounds, really. I'm sure I don't have to ask. But are you going to file a complaint with all party's involved?
I should add he kept one hand on his revolver the whole time, and at one point put a finger very close to my face.
I am thinking about going back in a day or so and wear my cowboy shooting rig. Just so there would be no question of what it was I had on.
Definitely do that. Only the degenerates can be baited. The decent aren't tempted to do wrong in the first place.
"The fourth man's dark, accusing song had scratched our comfort hard and long..."
"Be not intimidated ... nor suffer yourselves to be wheedled out of your Liberties by any pretense of Politeness, Delicacy, or Decency. These, as they are often used, are but three different names for Hypocrisy, Chicanery, and Cowardice." - John Adams
Tyranny with Manners is still Tyranny.
After trying a couple of tools to recover the audio it sems I didnt trash it but recorded over it. I still had it up on my phone when I got home to listen a second time and I hit record and not play and it just over wrote. I will press on in trying more recovery programs but I am pretty sure its gone.
I think another leson here is that one should have a dedicated recorder as well.
Last edited by Vegassteve; 05-26-2011 at 05:55 PM.
I use an HTC HD2, which started life as a Windows Mobile 6.5 phone. It was rooted, and now I dual boot both a custom Windows Mobile build and Android Gingerbread (the version for the tablets). Android is booted from the SD Card and things that are recorded via Android are on an encrypted "virtual SD Card". A secure way to make sure no one can get into it without permission for sure, however.. With the OS running basically all over the place. Chances to get overwritten data on something "deleted" is quite high.
Most other devices, the chances are not so much that the file was on parts of the "disc" that were overwritten, is minimal without heavy usage of picture taking, recording of video, etc.
I am on a HTC Inspire rooted running MIUI. I was able to find what I thought was the file in the correct folder and it was hidden but not there. Other files are. The program I used does indeed overwrite a file if you dont save it. I have since tested it and it is indeed true.
Hey pro tip, steve jobs called and recommends an iphone!
Too bad this wasn't in Virginia...I should add he kept one hand on his revolver the whole time, and at one point put a finger very close to my face.
Last edited by xd shooter; 05-26-2011 at 09:53 PM.
Check out the Va. forum - there are several threads stickied there on it.
You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC
Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.
My post was redundant.
Last edited by wrightme; 05-26-2011 at 11:01 PM.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
Letter I have crafted to be sent to all I can involved with the library. Please proof it for me.
Today May 26 I went to the Rainbow branch. Before entering I complied with the library policy and removed my legally owned and carried pistol. I locked it in a car safe in my car. I spent roughly 30 minutes getting some items. I checked out and was on my way out the door. I was approached or rather chased down by a older white security guard. He wanted to know what was in the case on my belt. Well I didn't have a case on my belt I did have a Bianchi Carry Lock holster. It is a open top holster that is clearly visible as I open carry and it was also very obvious that it was completely empty. I responded with "It is not a case it is my empty holster and has nothing in it. I then started again out the door. I then heard the guard say something else to me. I turned and started my audio recorder on my phone. I immediately let him know that I was recording him and asked him what he had said. he responded that he had said nothing. I then said to him that he indeed had said something and asked him to repeat it. He told there are no firearms allowed in the library. I told him it was very plain to see that there was not one on my person. He continued to argue the point after I asked him if having a empty holster was legal. He after much arguing and stammering on his part said it was not.
I then asked for his name and whom he worked for he refused to give me that info and covered his badge and what I think was a name tag. So I was unable to get his name. I then asked the other guard sitting down for the same info. He was told by the older man to not speak to me.
I should also point out that for the entire time this guard had his hand on his revolver, while putting a finger in my face. I am not some young kid. I am a 44 year old grown adult man. I turned and left and as I was leaving the guard stood in the doorway and made a smooching sound at me. This was confirmed by another patron leaving the library as well.
I also require that you furnish me with the names and company name of the security firm working today.
Very well said. In my opinion you have said enough and the conclusions are obvious. You have stated through the description of your encouter that his behavior was unprofessional. You are telling them that you were offended. I don't think they could draw any other conclusion. Sometimes the less said the better. Save some for a rebuttal.
I'm curious as to any response you might get.
Last edited by The Big Guy; 05-26-2011 at 11:30 PM.
Thanks all small changes made and sent to nearly everyone in the library district that has a email.