marshaul
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Yeah I really didn't want to touch that one. With any length of pole.
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Road Rager tries to run me off the road
- Thread starter Prophet
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Yeah I really didn't want to touch that one. With any length of pole.
carry for myself
Regular Member
i have a suspicion that poster may be "drunk" or under the influence of ETOH ;-)
hogeaterf6
Regular Member
Prophet
Regular Member
I think this is what they, as well as me were having a difficulty in understanding. Were you shot in the chest? And what exactly does zig zag away mean. They ran in a zig zag motion so you couldnt hit them?
sorry for that. i'm new at this and thank you for explianing it .
yes i was hit in cheast with what was either a sqibb or a misfire?
then his gun jamed .
i returned fire and i don't know if i hit guy one. (it happened in less than 4 or 5 secs altoghter)
i didn't fire on guy two becuase he was no longer a theart and they both zig zaged away . there was snow the on gruond and i didn't see any blood, but didn't look very hard ether, i didn't even know that i was shot until i got home and was telling my father what happend and noticed that there was some blood in my under shirt. it was right after x mas and i was there looking for deals.
just paid cash for a largr amount of tools
i should of know by the way they where looking hard at my money that something was upbut ..i told myself they wuold'nt try anything... . more than one lesson learned .
1 never pay in large amount of cash.
2be aware! and listin to that gut feeling
3never carry a bag in my draw hand
yes i was hit in cheast with what was either a sqibb or a misfire?
then his gun jamed .
i returned fire and i don't know if i hit guy one. (it happened in less than 4 or 5 secs altoghter)
i didn't fire on guy two becuase he was no longer a theart and they both zig zaged away . there was snow the on gruond and i didn't see any blood, but didn't look very hard ether, i didn't even know that i was shot until i got home and was telling my father what happend and noticed that there was some blood in my under shirt. it was right after x mas and i was there looking for deals.
just paid cash for a largr amount of tools
i should of know by the way they where looking hard at my money that something was upbut ..i told myself they wuold'nt try anything... . more than one lesson learned .
1 never pay in large amount of cash.
2be aware! and listin to that gut feeling
3never carry a bag in my draw hand
ixtow
Founder's Club Member
Well handled OP.
Kirbinator
Regular Member
You did everything correctly. Glad you didn't have to pull the trigger.
Prophet, well done. You kept your cool in a tense situation and were able to keep control. And kudos to the LEOs as well. It sounds like they responded quickly and with proportionate force, not swarming with multiple officers, assessed the situation fairly and didn't jump to conclusions about the MWAG, and ultimately treated you with the respect due any citizen. I hope and pray that I never have to face a situation like that, but if I do I hope it turns out as well.
I'm a bit confused, how could one possibly be hit by a squibb round?
and isn't a misfire a round that fails to discharge upon the primer being struck? Someone help me out here...
amaixner
Regular Member
Sounds like he might have been shot by a compressed gas or spring powered weapon if it drew blood through his clothing but did not penetrate -- up-powered airsoft, bb, pellet, etc. The intent of the robbers was pretty clear, though.
tx-skydiver
Regular Member
OP - Great job in dealing with your situation. I hope I can maintain my cool in a scenario like that.
After the police arrive I have a card that I would have handed them to say that I cannot discuss without my attorney present. Your situation could have gone either way with the police. Remember ANYTHING you say can and will be held against you.
I think maybe best to have had the witnesses speak for you.
my 2 cents
After the police arrive I have a card that I would have handed them to say that I cannot discuss without my attorney present. Your situation could have gone either way with the police. Remember ANYTHING you say can and will be held against you.
I think maybe best to have had the witnesses speak for you.
my 2 cents
carry for myself
Regular Member
probably a .25 acp.if its winter time and your wearing heavy clothing, a hollow point or even ball .25 may not have the power behind it to fully penatrate a heavy coat plus underclothing and still retain enough momemtum to fully enter flesh to any respecatable depth. i've shot a coyote with a .25 point blank and he just ran off, saw him on my porch the next night again and again for 3 weeks. and his fur had stopped it pretty dead.
.25acp is generally useless and alot of thugs use them because we all know pheonix and jennings make cheap models ;-)
Neplusultra
Regular Member
From the citation, when you may not use force:
(4)d. The person against whom the defensive force is used is a law enforcement officer acting in the performance of his or her official duties.
This seems to indicate you cannot resist unlawful entry or search by a LEO while on duty.......
Neplusultra
Regular Member
Ding, ding, ding! I always leave my strong hand free.
maybe you should have just kicked him in the nuts. then the story would have had a much more interesting ending
Haz.
Regular Member
Hi 'prophet.'
Glad all went well for you. Down Under where firearms have been banned, and all forms armed self defence have been declared illegal, you would have, as happens here, possibly been bashed to a pulp, robbed, possibly had your car stolen, or worse, killed. Thank God you people can arm yourselves. Never let that right go under any circumstances.
Glad all went well for you. Down Under where firearms have been banned, and all forms armed self defence have been declared illegal, you would have, as happens here, possibly been bashed to a pulp, robbed, possibly had your car stolen, or worse, killed. Thank God you people can arm yourselves. Never let that right go under any circumstances.
cshoff
Regular Member
Just for the sake of clarification, a "squib" load is ANY load that develops less than normal pressure. It could be anything from a cartridge that was loaded with a good primer but no powder, to a normally loaded cartridge in which the powder became compromised and failed to burn properly. Squib loads, quite often, develop sufficient pressure to push the projectile completely clear of the barrel. In fact, in a lot of cases, a centerfire cartridge loaded with no powder but with a good primer, will develop enough pressure to push the projectile clear of a short barrel (such as with a snub revolver or short-barrel semi-auto).
So, yes, it is entirely possible to be struck by a projectile that was fired out of a squib round.
acmariner99
Regular Member
OP: That was a perfect example of how to respond to a dangerous situation. You tried to get away from him (with your car) and when he presented a means and intent to want to harm you, you responded appropriately. Thankfully the split second instinct for him was to run away when the sirens approached. And it also seems the witnesses knew who the real bad guy was.
Phoenix David
Regular Member
Good job I'd say, only thing was IMO you should have said that you were willing to press charges if he was caught. In my neck of the woods it's aggravated assault, he said he had a gun, so as far as the as the law is concerned he had a gun. Of course your state laws may be different.