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    WHAT (RAP! "all gun owners are murderers"

    THIS MAN IS SICK!!!
    All Gun Owners Are Murderers
    Apr 20, 2011 ... Because society knows that gun owners, have a gun to kill people with ... Over 100000 guns a year are stolen from legal law-abiding gun owners. ... I will be going to as many courts and police stations as I possibly can ...
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    there is no victory in defense.
    The sword is more important than the shield,
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    The final weapon is the brain,
    all else is supplemental.

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    murderers?! i thought they would have hyped it up a bit and at least called us Ninja Assassins!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wild boar View Post
    THIS MAN IS SICK!!!
    All Gun Owners Are Murderers
    Apr 20, 2011 ... Because society knows that gun owners, have a gun to kill people with ... Over 100000 guns a year are stolen from legal law-abiding gun owners. ... I will be going to as many courts and police stations as I possibly can ...
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    oh you should see some of his youtube videos...hes certifiably looney...
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    I want to see where he gets his "information" from.
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiVJ
    oh you should see some of his youtube videos... he's certifiably looney...
    Problem is, he's not that far from the "mainstream" antis.
    They just usually cover their hatred & bigotry a bit better, make their lies sound a bit more plausible, and have the sense not to post their "I'm going to run them over with my car" type statements in public.
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    Yeppers, he's the whackjob that said if he sees an OCer he's gonna run us over with his car because the constitution says he can...

    His website is even more illuminating...trying to sue the auto industry because god never wanted us to have vehicles, but, he's gonna run us over in his car because god wants him to...

    scary thing is, this guy lives in Mi, not near far enough away for my liking.

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    Anybody for sending this looney someplace where the majority of people open carry? I'd love to see his head (figuratively) explode.

    But MKEgal hit the head right on the nail; there is a very, very thin line that separates the anti crowd from people like this person. Frankly, I don't think any of them is very safe around a hungry squirrel.

    Must be some very deep repressed feelings on both sides of that line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    I want to see where he gets his "information" from.
    ..from the voices in his head. Jerri Bonavia isn't even that looney. This guy makes her look reasonable.
    Last edited by BROKENSPROKET; 05-28-2011 at 04:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf1477 View Post
    Yeppers, he's the whackjob that said if he sees an OCer he's gonna run us over with his car because the constitution says he can...
    LOL! Where did he say that?

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    check out his youtube videos. He's F ing serious!!!. The FBI payed him a visit last year.

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    He must have lost his tinfoil hat.
    The purpose of fighting is to win,
    there is no victory in defense.
    The sword is more important than the shield,
    and skill is more important than either.
    The final weapon is the brain,
    all else is supplemental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    LOL! Where did he say that?

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...r-with-his-car...

    Here's his personal site (if it's still up): http://gotimothy.dyndns-free.com/

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    He says he is religious. I wonder how to reconciles his views with Numbers 35 and Exodus 21.
    Last edited by protias; 05-31-2011 at 04:20 PM.
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    Protias, you have numbers 35 and exodus 21 posted on youtube. Which is the correct verse?

    I have been debating him, not sure if I call it debating though. I ask him some some questions and he replies back with some nonsense and does not answer my question. I have caught him double talking a couple times and posted it, so far has not replied back. I even have a top rated comment on one of his videos. After a few comments most people are banned, I think have debated him the longest without being blocked from commenting on his videos. Here are his videos I have been debating him on.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS_LD...el_video_title

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gbmo...el_video_title

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSwvv...el_video_title

    Here are some of my favorite responses from him. AntiNRA is one of his other youtube accounts.

    If I was in a store, a couple of criminals walked in and started to shoot people, would I be a murder for shooting them and stopping them from killing more innocent people? If I saw a man trying to rape a women and I shot him, would I be a murder? What if the rapist turned out to be a serial rapists who suffocated all his victims afterward? What if a gang member broke in my house at night for initiation and had to kill someone to get in, if I defended my self and shot him would I be a murder?
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    @jag0699 Everything you said, is criminally insane rationalization, to justify murder.
    AntiNRA
    @AntiNRA So you don't think there is a single instance in which people are allowed to use deadly force to defend their lives even if that means allowing themselves to be killed? Each example I used has happened. In each of those cases more innocent people would have died if not for someone using deadly force against the criminal. Why do you feel its morally superior for a women to be raped and murdered than for a women to tell the police how the dead criminal tried to raper and kill her?
    jag0699
    @jag0699 Doctors, soldiers, firemen and policemen, all risk and sacrifice their lives to save others. Psychological testing should be done, to make sure anyone who thinks their life is more important than someone else's, not work in these fields. The job of policeman is to serve and protect, and the job of the devil is to kill and destroy. You should work in a coal mine or nuclear cleanup. I hear cleaning up nuclear waste is a perfectly safe job. Most dangerous job is a gas station attendant.
    GoTimothy

    @GoTimothy You still have not answered my question, why is it okay to run over and kill gun owners who are just walking down the street but not okay for a gun owner to shoot a criminal who is attacking them? You said everyone is innocent until proven guilty but why do gun owners not get that right in your eyes? You said that rape does not deserve murder, and that only murders should be put to death eye for eye life for life, but why does a gun owner who has never shot anyone deserve murder?
    jag0699
    @jag0699 I have answered you 100 times but you just don't get it. Anyone who has a lethal weapon, as already the intent to kill someone. They have already thought about killing people and they took second step of buying a lethal weapon. People who do not think they can kill someone, do not buy lethal weapons. People who do not have lethal weapons probably could not kill you even if they wanted to. When you have gun it is premeditated. The deference is first degree murder or manslaughter.
    GoTimothy
    @GoTimothy You said the Constitution protects people from being labeled as criminals until it is proven in a court of law. therefor gun owners cannot be labeled as murders. Using your logic people who drink beer are premeditated murders Everyone who buys a beer is a premeditated drunk driving murder. More people are killed from drunk drivers each year than guns. And yes people do kill without guns, in my state 143 were killed with knives/hands/feet/other in 09, almost as many as guns.
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    Still waiting on a response to my last question. I enjoy this to much. He told me anyone people who think their lives are more important than anyone els should have a psych eval, but than in anther video of his he says if the shrink finds gun owners are in their right frame of mind, it is just the opinion of the shrink and their opinion does not matter lol.
    Last edited by jag06; 05-31-2011 at 03:50 PM.

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    I posted it correctly on the YouTube channel and my short term memory mixed them up. I corrected it here.
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    There's another thread on the Michigan forums as well. Its a good one considering we are his specific targets, and many of us had attended the Arts Beats and Eats festival, which would have been his assumed target area.

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    if our guns kill people. then their pencils mis-spell words.

    freakin morons
    i would rather run out of blood, breath and life. and die fighting. than run out of ammo , and die with my pants down -Tom Scantas

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    First he says that he can run us over with his car, because the Constitution allows him to kill someone who makes him reasonably fear for his life, which any OCer does by default, and then he turns around and says killing in self-defense is Unconstitutional.

    I wonder if this is satire. He also says:

    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy
    From the bible, there really is only one justifiable reason to kill people, and that is to kill the people who rationalize a reason to kill.
    LOL! Talk about circular reasoning. This guy is hilarious.
    Last edited by marshaul; 06-07-2011 at 02:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    First he says that he can run us over with his car, because the Constitution allows him to kill someone who makes him reasonably fear for his life, which any OCer does by default, and then he turns around and says killing in self-defense is Unconstitutional.

    I wonder if this is satire. He also says:



    LOL! Talk about circular reasoning. This guy is hilarious.

    This nut is scary. Who knows when he will try to put his lunacy into practice.
    I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do those things to other people and I require the same of them.

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