ooghost1oo
Regular Member
Had an exciting day today. I was out working with some of my employees, marketing on foot for leads for a home improvement company, and had LEO contact. Note: This does not involve OC'ing, but I acted the same as if I were to have an encounter OC'ing, and used knowledge and tactics to resist privacy invasion that I learned from THIS FORUM.
Sometimes a kooky homeowner will call the cops on us. But this is the first time I've ever been asked to produce my ID after explaining the work we do out there. My two employees had already given the deputies (sheriffs, not police, for some reason) their ID's, and one had been arrested because of a warrant he didn't know about for missing a court date. The other was telling me by phone that they were all waiting for me, and the cops were refusing to answer his question of "am I free to go?"
When I arrived, I greeted one of the deputies. My arrested employee was in a cruiser, and my other employee was sitting scared on the hood of his car. The LEO said they got a call about suspicious activity, and asked what we were doing there. I told him about my marketing business, and that we were gathering leads for a particular client for such-and-such type of service. He then asked me for my ID.
I said something along the lines of, "That won't be necessary, officer. I do not consent to search. Am I free to go?"
He acted shocked, and said, "I don't want to search you--I just want to run your ID."
I said, "Officer, I understand you're just doing your job. But unless you've got probable cause of a crime being committed, and we're being detained, then I'd like to take my employee and both of us be free to go."
The deputy seemed exasperated at that point, and said, "fine--go."
I told my employee to rendezvous with me in such-and-such a location, and we left.
Didn't happen while I was OC'ing, but because of everything I've read here, I was prepared, felt confident, and felt pretty damned awesome after that encounter.
Carry on!
Sometimes a kooky homeowner will call the cops on us. But this is the first time I've ever been asked to produce my ID after explaining the work we do out there. My two employees had already given the deputies (sheriffs, not police, for some reason) their ID's, and one had been arrested because of a warrant he didn't know about for missing a court date. The other was telling me by phone that they were all waiting for me, and the cops were refusing to answer his question of "am I free to go?"
When I arrived, I greeted one of the deputies. My arrested employee was in a cruiser, and my other employee was sitting scared on the hood of his car. The LEO said they got a call about suspicious activity, and asked what we were doing there. I told him about my marketing business, and that we were gathering leads for a particular client for such-and-such type of service. He then asked me for my ID.
I said something along the lines of, "That won't be necessary, officer. I do not consent to search. Am I free to go?"
He acted shocked, and said, "I don't want to search you--I just want to run your ID."
I said, "Officer, I understand you're just doing your job. But unless you've got probable cause of a crime being committed, and we're being detained, then I'd like to take my employee and both of us be free to go."
The deputy seemed exasperated at that point, and said, "fine--go."
I told my employee to rendezvous with me in such-and-such a location, and we left.
Didn't happen while I was OC'ing, but because of everything I've read here, I was prepared, felt confident, and felt pretty damned awesome after that encounter.
Carry on!
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