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Arrested for standing and dancing?

since9

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THIS is America. when you express our first amendment in a public place you WILL...

...be arrested.

I experienced this first-hand, twice, in both Lincoln's memorial as well as in a much more mundane location, an armory, which no one had visited in over a week. Our choir group made a visit, as it was to an historic fort, and had absolutely wonderful acoustics for a choir group, so, with NO ONE ELSE AROUND, we began aria-ing our heart out.

Wonderful music came force, voice-only-from that centuries old power room.

All of a sudden, some 5'0'' snot-nosed park "sheriff" told us to "knock it off" as "singing to God is against the law."

Oh. Gee. Really. This was circa 1979.

Against the law, eh? This x knew neither her Constitution nor whatever oath of law she took. She violated EVERY right in our book, as did the park-police-trained Constitutionally-deprived morons from the video who can, and should go to jail for violating the Constitutional rights of U.S. citizens.

The First protects the Second. The Second protects the First. Both protect The Rest.

It's not a force issue. It's a legal issue. I sincerely hope and pray the powers that be grasp the reality of this situation, as these are rights endowed to us by more than just law, but by right. Should these rights ever be under attack by other than a rightful measure of law, they must, by their rightful establishment by the measure of force under which such law was established, be defended under the same measure.

I ask for lesser measure. I also ask for reasonable measure, with the advanced notice that any such lessoning be met with full response. If no such reasonable measure can be met with respect to the parties involved, the case should be reverted to it's original status involving full grief among all parties.
 

HKcarrier

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Yeah, that's pretty nuts... although clearly the people knew it was 'illegal' and were there to get arrested on purpose... I'm pretty sure that was not "expressive dancing" though...
 

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They were expressing the displeasure against the unconstitutional decision made by a treasonous activist judge.

Treason is defined as an act of war against the US. The US is a country of the people, and the ideas listed in our founding documents. The attacker may be foreign or domestic. The declaration of war, was signed into law by the judge, (along with decades of others). The attack was both on the people, and the right.

Attacking and arresting US citizens for exercising thier rights, is an act of war, it doesnt matter if the enemy is foreign or domestic.
 
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HandyHamlet

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In a 26-page opinion, U.S. District Judge John Bates ruled that "expressive dancing" does constitute an act that undermines "an atmosphere of calm, tranquility, and reverence" at the memorial.
http://dcist.com/2010/01/judge_rules_against_jefferson_memor.php
"A prohibition on expressive activities in a nonpublic forum does not violate the First Amendment if it is viewpoint neutral and is 'reasonable in light of the use to which the forum is dedicated,'" Bates wrote. "Here, the ban on demonstrations at the Jefferson Memorial satisfies these requirements."


How is OUR memorial nonpublic?

Singing at the memorial.

[video=youtube;wGc-yZwNOhg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGc-yZwNOhg[/video]


And... No singing at the Memorial.

Assembly, Speech
‘Star-Spangled Banner’-singing students muzzled at Jefferson Memorial

Alicia Benjamin-Samuels
Contributing Writer
Wednesday, May 9, 2001
John F. Gwizdak

A National Park Service official stopped several Missouri students from singing about the “land of the free and the home of the brave” during a visit to the Jefferson Memorial last month.

A park ranger told the students to stop singing the national anthem on April 5 because, according to a federal regulation, if more than 26 people engage in activities that attract an audience, the event is considered a demonstration and requires a permit.

Participating in the singing were 20 of the 54 winners of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Voice of Democracy essay contest, ironically titled “What Price Freedom?” Each year the essay winners visit various national monuments, memorials and other historical sites.

The students’ outburst was a spontaneous occurrence, said Jerry Newberry, VFW communications and public affairs director. “It’s not like it was a big Mormon Tabernacle choir thing going on,” Newberry said.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org...inging-students-muzzled-at-jefferson-memorial

Students at Lincoln Memorial Told to Stop Singing National Anthem

By Todd Starnes

Published August 09, 2010

A group of high school students attending a conservative leadership conference in Washington, D.C. said they were ordered by a security guard to stop singing the national anthem during a June 25 visit to the Lincoln Memorial.

U.S. Park Police confirmed that the students were in violation of federal law and their impromptu performance constituted a demonstration in an area that must remain “completely content neutral.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/0...d-stop-singing-national-anthem/#ixzz1O3QZ2FfM

And I'll close with this. The Irony makes my teeth ache.
“It’s not like it was a big Mormon Tabernacle choir thing going on,”

[video=youtube;KrOeGWMQAfQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrOeGWMQAfQ[/video]
 

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If something seems off to you there shouldn't be any reason for you to not report it, but on the same side the people who investigate the report shouldn't be able to violate your rights under the guise of "security."

Here is a perfect example of a photographer's Constitutional Rights being violated about a 100 different ways. Because of "9/11". The cops lie to him every single time they open their mouths. They even abuse him because he is hearing impaired.

Two videos. They are long and it takes the page a while to load. You all will notice there is absolutely no difference between these videos and Open Carry videos.

http://www.pixiq.com/article/maryland-transit-administration-buckles-under-aclu-lawsuitthreat

Found the vids on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iMr76atjUA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JOFwbiI8fQ&feature=related


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...hers-detainment/2011/06/01/AGvrEBGH_blog.html

Posted at 07:05 AM ET, 06/01/2011
ACLU may sue MTA over photographer’s detainment
By Baltimore Sun

Christopher Fussell likes to take pictures of trains and buses. The 29-year-old Oregonian has shot photos and video of transit systems all over the United States.

It wasn't until he came to Baltimore, he said Tuesday, that he was detained for committing photography.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland put the Maryland Transit Administration on notice Tuesday that it intends to file suit over the conduct of transit police in ordering Fussell and another photographer to stop taking pictures. The group warned that unless the agency meets a series of conditions by Sept. 1, it will take the MTA to court — where it expects to win.
 
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Dreamer

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This event needs to go viral in EVERY state capitol...

The dancing, I mean...

:banana: :monkey :banana: :monkey:banana: :monkey :banana: :monkey
 
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Dreamer

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Two videos. They are long and it takes the page a while to load. You all will notice there is absolutely no difference between these videos and Open Carry videos.


Well, actually there is one HUMONGOUS difference between this video and OC videos. It is in Maryland...

I doubt you will EVER see an OC video from Baltimore MD that doesn't conclude with the OCer being shot by LEOs...

In fact, I doubt you will EVER see an OC video from MD, period...
 

Dreamer

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Here is a perfect example of a photographer's Constitutional Rights being violated about a 100 different ways. Because of "9/11". The cops lie to him every single time they open their mouths. They even abuse him because he is hearing impaired.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...hers-detainment/2011/06/01/AGvrEBGH_blog.html


In an unprecedented move of support FOR the Constitution among MD LEAs, the head of MTA has told the press that he supports people's right to photograph public property, and will set his underlings straight as to what is and is not legal with regards to MTA...

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/traffic/2011/06/mta_chief_repudiates_photograp.html


There may be hope yet, for that god-forsaken state...
 

HandyHamlet

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Man. I was saving that tidbit.

The head of Metra only spoke up after they got a threatening letter.

"There's just a high sensitivity post-9/11 to photographers. We obviously have to back off of that," he said.

Interesting factoid. Not once was photography involved in the planning of any terrorist attack in this country. But that's what they'll go with when they infringe upon your freedom.

Remember folks, it is your moral duty to report suspicious dancing, photography, singing... people reading books.
 
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