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    Cops With Bad Attitudes

    This, in today's (5/31/2011) Daily Press.

    There are just some things you want to know about. One of them is whether you have cops with bad attitudes.

    For that reason, a policy some police departments are adopting to keep officers with dark sides from revealing them is a bad idea. Instead of censoring the expression of ideas that are bad news in people with guns and authority, officials should want to get wind of them, so they can address them.

    But some officials are more concerned about protecting the image of their departments than with protecting the public. So they tell employees not to post anything online that would "reflect badly" on the department.

    Read the rest at: http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-nw...3377746.column
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    I'm not sure I have much, if any, heartburn with the concepts discussed in the story. I was much more afraid that I was going to read that LEAs were trying to put brakes on the "public policy commenting" issue that protects public employees who write letters to the editor/blog about screwups within their own agency.

    As for the "advice" given - do not post anything to the internet that would bring discredit on you or your agency? I read that more as a different way of saying "Don't be a jerk" than "Just don't brag on line about being a jerk". Maybe that's because I have a deep and abiding faith that the jerks out there will not follow the "Don't brag on line" advice no matter how often it is repeated. It is as if there is an inate drive to document the extent of their jerkitude, and I'm eternally grateful for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2a4all View Post
    So they tell employees not to post anything online that would "reflect badly" on the department.

    Read the rest at: http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-nw...3377746.column
    Fairfax musta not accepted that policy..Huh!

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    I thought they give cops psychological tests before hiring to make sure they have bad attitudes. It's always amazed me how many sensible people get through that testing phase and become cops anyway (of course, they don't last long on the job).
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    Quote Originally Posted by user View Post
    I thought they give cops psychological tests before hiring to make sure they have bad attitudes. It's always amazed me how many sensible people get through that testing phase and become cops anyway (of course, they don't last long on the job).
    They do give testing to screen LEOs. If you score higher than about 100 on an IQ test in some jurisdictions, you are disqualified from becoming an officer...

    http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/09/ny...iq-scores.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    They do give testing to screen LEOs. If you score higher than about 100 on an IQ test in some jurisdictions, you are disqualified from becoming an officer...

    http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/09/ny...iq-scores.html
    Well, that just further qualifies a theory I've been working on for any number of years.

    Can you be "overqualified" to be a cop? Apparently. Criteria for denial range from high intelligence to unrestrained cognitive reasoning and for excessive compassion shown towards your fellow man to acute understanding and appreciation of civil and Constitutional rights.
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    I'm glad to see that this hasn't turned into a cop bashing thread, since that would be against the rules of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    I'm glad to see that this hasn't turned into a cop bashing thread, since that would be against the rules of course.
    That's because the normal bashee hasn't shown up.
    The day ain't over yet though.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    I'm glad to see that this hasn't turned into a cop bashing thread, since that would be against the rules of course.
    Of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    That's because the normal bashee hasn't shown up.
    The day ain't over yet though.,
    Oh goody....something to look forward to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    Oh goody....something to look forward to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    I'm glad to see that this hasn't turned into a cop bashing thread, since that would be against the rules of course.
    If citing a United States District Court case upholding the insanely ridiculous and nonsensically discriminatory "testing standards" for LEOs qualifies as "cop bashing" then I may just have to leave this forum...

    When did "political correctness" and avoiding the truth so as not to step on someone's tender sensibilities become standards by which posts on THIS forum are to be judged?

    I'm starting think people are intentionally seeding the forum with "controversial" topics just so people like me who like to do research, and keep up on the Court Precedents will post verifiable cites that will piss certain members off.

    And to be honest, it's getting sort of old, being called out just for citing the facts.

    WTF?
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    Reminds me of a Mad Magazine piece I read sometime I think during 1966 or '67 - they said the test for Officer's Candidate School was as easy as rolling off a log - in fact that was the test. Anyone who couldn't roll off a log could become an officer.
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    Gun Week seems to understand

    In the current issue of Gun Week, there is an interesting article about some brave citizens who sued the police and won - "Two juries find cops unlawfully arrested women questioners"

    The article discusses the reality of "contempt of cop" based arrests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    In the current issue of Gun Week, there is an interesting article about some brave citizens who sued the police and won - "Two juries find cops unlawfully arrested women questioners"

    The article discusses the reality of "contempt of cop" based arrests.
    Got a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by All American Nightmare View Post
    Got a link?
    Their site says that article is only in the print edition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    In the current issue of Gun Week, there is an interesting article about some brave citizens who sued the police and won - "Two juries find cops unlawfully arrested women questioners"

    The article discusses the reality of "contempt of cop" based arrests.
    Not a link to the article but to the magazine.
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