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    ILEETA files brief in Peruta case

    ILEETA brief says UOC doesn't satisfy the 2nd amendment
    The brief points out the disadvantages of having to resort to UOC for self defense. Especially in the case of a revolver.

    http://michellawyers.com/wp-content/...icus-Brief.pdf
    A citizen may not be required to offer a ―good and substantial reason-- why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs.

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    I scanned this quickly and have come to the conclusion that the breif completely throws exposed carry (loaded or not) out as an acceptable or practical exercize of the second amendment. Some of it I can agree with- particularly the issue of loading while UOC. But this breif was designed to advance the premise that licensed concealed carry is the only acceptable practice of the right to keep and bear. (Which, I contend it is not, when it is burdened with taxation, invasive background searches, revocable privileges and other government demands.)
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    I agree that UOC is far from the ideal way to carry for self defense. I disagree that LOC not a deterent to criminals. It's my opinion that criminals would look for a softer target. With concealed carry, There is doubt who is carrying and who isn't.
    The premis that OC takes up valueable police time sounds like the Brady arguement. With proper training of dispatchers, that could be eliminated.
    I would like to have both options....LOC on the street, and concealed carry when I go into a business.

    I doubt we will get Az carry. I suspect is will be more like Nevada has.
    A citizen may not be required to offer a ―good and substantial reason-- why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs.

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    I scanned through the brief also. I would not say that UOC is "inadequate" as ILEETA concludes. Perhaps, inferior to LOC, but not inadequate.

    The CC portion of the brief does sound like FUD propaganda straight out of the Brady manual.

    CC has become the whored step-sister of Constitutional 2A carry. CC is severely Regulated and Restricted by that institution 2A was designed to be used against. It has become government 2R carry resulting in thousands being Rejected and deemed unworthy of government approval.

    Where in the Constitution does it say that government is the gatekeeper for access to a citizen's 2A right to keep and bear?
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    Open Carry is a pre-ordained right. Concealed carry is a priveledge.

    Up yours Koppell. "Urbanized areas" of Kalifornia will have to get used to open carry because..

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