The only thing the e-violation accomplishes is sending the message of "do what he's doing, and you can expect the same." Of course most people want nothing to do with being surrounded by the law. So the e-violation is extremely effective in preventing open carry in this state. That's why we need to stop the e-violations. Then and only then will more people open carry. Besides that, many who would open carry choose not to because the unloaded requirement is viewed as useless or even more dangerous than not carrying at all.
Regardless, once 12031e is gone and LOC is restored, open carry will still be rare, especially in CA.
Well im not sure if that is the ONLY thing..
You need to be careful with saying that phrase, the antis use it and people believe it---"the ONLY thing a gun is used for is to shoot and kill another human being". We know that is not true, the firearms most powerful use is as a visual deterent.
I have seen some of the sheeple, who are almost awake, see an E check and it wakes them up to the reality that US citizens rights are being trampled. Then they want to know more and get involved. They come up afterwards and ask us questions. The remaining sheeple may not understand what they are seeing at least the first time they see it. But they see ordinary citizens with guns NOT get arrested by LE and they wonder why.
Right now LE does not care about the politics, especially the patrol officers who have to do the 'E' check, they just do it because that is what their training bulletin said to do, they are not thinking they are just following orders, they see the weapon in the holster and like Pavlovs' dog the bell goes off and they start salivating, but they are not seeing it like we see it. Thats why so many dont even listen to us when we discuss the issue with them, they just want to do the E check now, and get the hell out of there cause they know they will be on youtube and quite possibly sued for a civil rights violation.
If tomorrow E checks magically vanished and we could LOC, nothing in the minds of the sleeping California people will change, It would be like transporting a bi-racial husband and wife into 1950's middle America, there is no time or opportunity to ease people into changing their thought process. Sheeple will still be scared and frightend because there has not been any sort of "wade into the water" effect. People hate change, especially fast change. a schism would be created, shops and stores would put up "no guns allowed" signs, communtiy groups would try and find some means to get another unconstitutional law passed to thwart 2A rights.
Just because we win the court battle and get our rights back does not mean we win the people. If you can not remember the 101st airborne and the Little Rock 9 think about it. Segregation was declared unconstitutional, schools could no longer be 1 color only, and look how readily it was accpeted with open arms by the people (sarcasm).
Some of the most powerful images from that time were Americans being beat with night sticks, having dogs set on them by LE, and high power water hoses. That is what happend when the govt said "this is now illegal", do you think something similar would happen when LOC was suddenly legal?? There would be a tremendous backlash by the sleeping anti sheeple. Maybe not water cannon or night stick beatings but a definite backlash.
This is the danger of "winning" a Scotus case that says magcally over night "they can carry now" Look how much Chicago's illicit govt is fighting the change. Even D.C and NY are actively fighting any pro 2A change. Think about the "
Law of Unintended Consequences"I believe to stop the E check violation is to have more of them, more people need to see responsible citizens being harrassed for exercising a Constitutional right, that is whats going to piss people off and affect a change. Plus LE is going to get tired of checking if its a daily occurence, same people, more of them, always carrying.
The problem I see is that there are good ways and bad ways to handle LE when they do an E check. The good way, the MLK way, the Ghandi way, the non violent resistance movement way is to let them do the E check in front of large groups of people and let the people see non violent resistance to illicit acitvity by the state..
The not so good way is to be actively resistant, obstinate, confrontational. When the people see that they dont empathize with us they just see an armed "criminal" being handled by LE. (this by the way is what the media wants desperately to catch for the evening news, and the Brady bunch as well).
I have noticed that during community events where LE has for-knowledge of UOC occuring they opt to just avoid us. Not knowing if there are 5 or 50 of us attending they know it would be a PR nightmare to try and stop and check all of us. This works for our cause, the stupidity and pointlesness of Mass 'E' checks on the evening news HELPS our cause. Especially if the UOC'rs are acting MLK like.