11AM Saturday:
15,537 votes
79% no permits/training
21% permits/training
Gee, isn't that the same % that voted to adopt the WI Constitutional amendment protecting RKBA?
This is in line with their other polls about 2A rights issues.
Let's see how long before this one gets "disappeared".
ksks said:
the majority of WI would prefer a bill with a permit and training component.
...there really is little down side to it.
...let's get together, support that, and make sure we have the best law we can.
This isn't something that's open to a vote. The majority does not decide rights.
What the legislators are doing (should have done long ago) is to bring WI laws in line with both the WI & US Constitutions.
The best law we can get is pure Constitutional Carry. Second best is CC w/ an optional permit.
And correct me if I'm misunderstanding, but once the laws are corrected we'd still be allowed to carry in our cars, as well as carrying concealed just about everywhere, without a permit. One version of the law had the "GF"SZ reeled in to be only the grounds of a school, so we wouldn't even be violating that state law by driving past.
The only
good things I see about a permit:
1) don't worry about the federal "GF"SZ law
2) some states only honor home-state permits for concealed carry
Outdoorsman1 said:
requiring a permit would open the door for LEO to step on our constitutional rights by demanding to see a permit when we have done NOTHING illegal.
Not entirely true. I think it's Delaware v. Prouse that said police can't stop someone driving a car just to check to see if they have a valid permit. (That's why they make up lies about a tail light being out, or not stopping at a stop sign.)
Logically, an officer couldn't stop someone whom they suspect is carrying concealed just to check for a valid license. (So they'll think up some imaginary infraction, just as they do with cars.)
