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    GRNC Alert 6-6-11: Demand Action on HB 111

    Grass Roots North Carolina, P.O. Box 10665, Raleigh, NC 27605, 919-664-8565, www.GRNC.org

    GRNC Alert 6-6-11:
    Demand Action on HB 111

    Haven't You Waited Long Enough?

    HB 111, the long-awaited Parks and Restaurants bill, is currently awaiting action in the Senate Judiciary II Committee. You, the gun owning public, have been patient. Now, it seems that you have waited long enough. The NC House has done its part in moving this vital bill forward. It is time for the Senate to do its part. Raise your voices and tell them you want action before the Senate adjourns.

    Permit-Holders Proven Responsible

    * According to the NC State Bureau of Investigation, 336,743 concealed handgun permits have been approved, yet only 1007 (0.29% -- less than 1/3 of a single percent) have been revoked for any reason, with most revocations unrelated to guns.

    * Although the SBI doesn't track reasons for revocation, evidence from elsewhere suggests the vast majority of revocations are for reasons unrelated to guns. In Florida, for example, where 1,935,222 permits were issued, only 168 (.009%) were revoked due to misuse of firearms.

    * As in the 37 other states with concealed handgun laws, North Carolina permit-holders have a 16 year track record of proving themselves sane, sober and law-abiding.

    * "Wild west" predictions of "shootings at traffic lights" by the law's opponents have proven false in North Carolina as in all of the 37 states which have adopted such laws.

    Why Parks?

    * State parks: Although violent crime overall has dropped by 27.7% since inception of concealed carry, ostensibly "gun free" state parks have not benefited from the deterrence effect of the law, experiencing only an estimated drop of 8.93%, including an estimated 72 violent crimes and 1278 property crimes.

    * Municipal parks: Violent crime rates for municipal parks are not tracked by the State Bureau of Investigation, but urban settings and frequent news reports of rapes, murders and assaults suggests a much higher rate and number of violent crimes, perhaps numbering in the thousands.

    * Deterrence effect: Controlled, multi-variate studies of concealed handgun permit laws around the country show they deter murder, rape and aggravated assault.

    * Net benefit: Beyond allowing joggers, hikers and families enjoying North Carolina's state and municipal parks to protect themselves against violent predators, HB 111 is likely to create a drop in crime by deterring criminals who search for unarmed victims.

    Why Restaurants?

    * Restaurant carry is not untested: Even The New York Times admits that at least 39 states (by some counts, 40 states) permit concealed carry in restaurants.

    * Even a simple buffet restaurant is off limits to concealed carry if it has an on-premises alcohol consumption permit. When concealed handgun permit-holders go to such restaurants, they and their families are unprotected not only there but also in surrounding neighborhoods and parking lots.

    * Nothing would change the current prohibition on consuming alcohol while carrying concealed firearms contained in ß 14-415.11 (c).

    * Restaurant owners would still have the option of posting against firearms under ß 14-415.11 (c).

    * The North Carolina Restaurant & Lodging Association (NCRLA) has said that it does not oppose the bill.

    * GRNC strongly advises you to oppose the "Guice Amendment," made in the House, under which municipalities could ban firearms in recreational facilities. Those facilities are precisely where permit-holders most need to protect family members.

    * Both Virginia (4/10) and Tennessee (6/10) have adopted restaurant carry without reported problems.

    IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED:

    * Contact the members of the Senate Leadership (listed following the message).
    * Deliver this message:

    Dear Senator:

    I am writing you to let you know that HB 111, "Handgun Permit Valid in Parks & Restaurants," is a priority. It is time for you to act. The NC House has done their part and now it is time for you to do yours. NC Republicans were elected for a reason. Act now to push HB 111 forward.

    I urge you support and pass this important bill. I will be monitoring the progress of HB 111 and your actions on this matter through the alerts of Grass Roots North Carolina.

    Sincerely,

    A Concerned North Carolina Voter


    Contact these legislators:

    Full Contact Info:

    Sen. Phil Berger
    16 W. Jones Street, Room 2008
    Raleigh, NC 27601-2808
    (919) 733-5708
    Phil.Berger@ncleg.net

    Sen. Tom Apodaca
    16 W. Jones Street, Room 2010
    Raleigh, NC 27601-2808
    (919) 733-5745
    Tom.Apodaca@ncleg.net

    Senator Austin M. Allran
    300 N. Salisbury Street, Room 625
    Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
    (919) 733-5876
    Austin.Allran@ncleg.net

    Senator Warren Daniel
    300 N. Salisbury Street, Room 411
    Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
    (919) 715-7823
    Warren.Daniel@ncleg.net

    Senator E. S. (Buck) Newton
    300 N. Salisbury Street, Room 410
    Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
    (919) 715-3030
    Buck.Newton@ncleg.net

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    sent to my Sen.
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    sent and to my senator Neal Hunt.

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    sent to all 5
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    Sent all five.

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    OCDO - Open Carry

    HB 111 is for CHP. No open carry is in this bill.
    Get a DVR, a Digital Voice Recorder, carry it 24/7. It's cheap, easy and makes a good witness in Court.

    Triangle Open Carry Meetup
    http://www.meetup.com/r/inbound/0/0/...ry/?a=sharetxt
    This is a link for a "gunz r welcome" sign.
    http://www.gunlaws.com/images/unity.gif
    FORUM RULES (14)
    ....This web site is focused on the right to openly carry properly holstered handguns in daily American life.

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    got the following response fromSenator Apodaca's office:

    Thank you for writing regarding HB 111.

    To follow the status of this bill, please visit: http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillL...1&BillID=h+111

    Currently, this bill is in the Judiciary II Committee. Senator Apodaca is not a member of this committee, but we will make him aware of your support for HB 111 should he get the opportunity to vote on this legislation.

    We recommend you contact the bill Sponsor’s, Representative’s Hilton, Barnhart, Steen, and Hastings to ask that they contact the Chairmen of Judiciary II to have the bill heard in Committee. You could also contact the Chairmen of Judiciary II: Senator’s Allran, Daniel, and Newton.

    If you need further information please don’t hesitate to contact us.

    Office of Senator Tom Apodaca
    Chairman of Rules and Operations of the N.C. Senate


    Sounds like it might be stuck in committee, not sure.

    Just got the following response from Neal Hunt, Senator from Wake County
    "Now that the budget is done, we are moving these bills forward!"
    Last edited by 62 Caddy; 06-07-2011 at 07:07 PM. Reason: added response from Neal Hunt

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    Quote Originally Posted by 62 Caddy View Post
    got the following response fromSenator Apodaca's office:

    Thank you for writing regarding HB 111.

    To follow the status of this bill, please visit: http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillL...1&BillID=h+111

    Currently, this bill is in the Judiciary II Committee. Senator Apodaca is not a member of this committee, but we will make him aware of your support for HB 111 should he get the opportunity to vote on this legislation.

    We recommend you contact the bill Sponsorís, Representativeís Hilton, Barnhart, Steen, and Hastings to ask that they contact the Chairmen of Judiciary II to have the bill heard in Committee. You could also contact the Chairmen of Judiciary II: Senatorís Allran, Daniel, and Newton.

    If you need further information please donít hesitate to contact us.

    Office of Senator Tom Apodaca
    Chairman of Rules and Operations of the N.C. Senate


    Sounds like it might be stuck in committee, not sure.
    I have sent emails to all above asking for their support in this bill being heard and supported. Here are the committee co-chairs if anyone is interested.

    Senator Austin Allran
    NC Senate
    300 N. Salisbury Street, Room 625
    Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
    (919) 733-5876
    Austin.Allran@ncleg.net

    Senator Warren Daniel
    NC Senate
    300 N. Salisbury Street, Room 411
    Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
    (919) 715-7823
    Warren.Daniel@ncleg.net

    Senator E.S. (Buck) Newton
    NC Senate
    300 N. Salisbury Street, Room 410
    Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
    (919) 715-3030
    Buck.Newton@ncleg.net

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