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Take Back Independence Day
- Thread starter cyras21
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KBCraig
Regular Member
As regular readers know, I’m not one for hyperbole, so perhaps some are thinking that my title is ironic. Nope, I mean it. An accumulation of events in recent months leads me to no other conclusion than that we are in fact living in a police state in the good old US of A.
The list of reasons is fairly long....
http://www.thefreemanonline.org/headline/yes-this-is-a-police-state/
The list of reasons is fairly long....
http://www.thefreemanonline.org/headline/yes-this-is-a-police-state/
And as far back as 1776 American Colonists were feeling and experiencing the same, and then they read “Common sense”. Maybe Cyras21 should pass out copies of that instead of wearing an upside down flag?
HandyHamlet
Regular Member
Federal Officer Detains Photographer
[video=youtube;nxcMsiP_Yqw&feature]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxcMsiP_Yqw&feature[/video]
And a lying ****.
Right to Record Police on the Street?
Darcy Spencer
News4's Darcy Spencer spoke to a woman who lost her phone for several days after taping an arrest in Chinatown.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/The_Right_to_Record__Washington_DC-124142248.html
warning: lame ass commercial precedes video.
[video=youtube;nxcMsiP_Yqw&feature]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxcMsiP_Yqw&feature[/video]
And a lying ****.
Right to Record Police on the Street?
Darcy Spencer
News4's Darcy Spencer spoke to a woman who lost her phone for several days after taping an arrest in Chinatown.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/The_Right_to_Record__Washington_DC-124142248.html
warning: lame ass commercial precedes video.
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Gunslinger
Regular Member
Another moronic SS drone in action. This guy should take action against him for false arrest. Let's see, taking pictures of the Lincoln Memorial, Washington Memorial, obooba's plantation, etc, etc, ad nauseum. And taxpayer dollars pay this dick.
slowfiveoh
Regular Member
What is the chronological differentiation between a government that is oppressive, tyrannical, and totalitarian a large portion of the time, versus one that is oppressive, tyrannical, and totalitarian all of the time?
Answer: Nothing.
Exercised, flagrant violation of our individual rights on an every-other-day basis is nothing less than holding the queue card for the next time they wish to indulge in same douchebaggery. It is only a matter of time before Mondays turn out like Tuesdays.
Answer: Nothing.
Exercised, flagrant violation of our individual rights on an every-other-day basis is nothing less than holding the queue card for the next time they wish to indulge in same douchebaggery. It is only a matter of time before Mondays turn out like Tuesdays.
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HandyHamlet
Regular Member
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Citizen
Founder's Club Member
I forgot to add the watch list secretly maintained and added to. That list that none of us can find out how people got on the list, nor the criteria for getting on the list. (Maybe secret because if we found out, there'd be a real uproar?)
There was something over a million Americans on the list, last I heard. There can't possibly be a million Americans who are terrorists. So, what's the list really for?
There was something over a million Americans on the list, last I heard. There can't possibly be a million Americans who are terrorists. So, what's the list really for?
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since9
Campaign Veteran
While that's an interesting goal, that's absolutely incorrect. One of my hobbies is photography (also I'm semi-professional, as some of my works have sold), and my current profession is as a freelance writer. I also coordinate semi-annual seminars on copyright and trademark law for writers, photographers, and artists.
I said "host," not "give." The speakers are local lawyers who specialize in copyright and trademark law.
One thing you can do is take a picture of anyone you wish, provided they're in full view of the public. This does not apply to minors. You can NOT, however, publish their photo in any manner whatsoever, including YouTube, without obtaining a release.
If I'd read a little further, I could have saved some typing... You're nearly correct. Whether you publish it for money or not, it still requires a release.
No. With respect to this subject, the 1st Amendment specifically states: "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press..."
"Abridge" means "to reduce in scope, diminish, shorten in duration or extent, shorten by omission of words without sacrifice of sense." - Source
The entire focus of the First Amendment involves expression. Inside out. Not capture, which is outside in.
Were you aware it's illegal to either photograph or paint, then publish, well-known but nevertheless privately-owned buildings or structures from the outside without the express written consent of the owners? Yet they're in full view of the public...
That's because the capture and use of images are not covered by the First Amendment. They're covered by copyright and trademark law.
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Citizen
Founder's Club Member
Don't forget the use of Dogs......
Oh, yes. Thank you.
When the government lies to me and tells me a dog-sniff is not a search...
When government routinely uses dog sniffs that are not searches to search school lockers...
...routine DNA collection of new-borns
...TSA supervises custodial searches, euphemistically called "pat downs", at high school proms.
...local police are in cozy with federal police, sharing information
...local police use infiltrators to spy on dissent organizations such as death penalty abolishers
1245A Defender
Regular Member
slowfiveoh
Regular Member
Thank you sir!
Gunslinger
Regular Member
Patriots who believe the tree of liberty needs to be watered regularly with the blood of tyrants.
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HandyHamlet
Regular Member
Homeland Security is currently engaged in a campaign to encourage photographers to be reported as suspicious. The act of taking pictures to be reported as suspicious act. Photographers are arrested on a daily basis for the crime of photography and exercising their 1A rights.
While others blissfully bury their heads in the sand.
Not only was he illegally detained and handcuffed, and even though he is a minor, his request to have his parents there, a lawyer, or a phone call are refused by the SS Stormtroopers. (2:48)
[video=youtube;yihlIlyFNME&feature]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yihlIlyFNME&feature[/video]
While others blissfully bury their heads in the sand.
Not only was he illegally detained and handcuffed, and even though he is a minor, his request to have his parents there, a lawyer, or a phone call are refused by the SS Stormtroopers. (2:48)
[video=youtube;yihlIlyFNME&feature]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yihlIlyFNME&feature[/video]
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Gunslinger
Regular Member
Good post! Wow, I'm changing my view of our heroic police rapidly! They caught this terrorist taking a picture of a train on public property. They showed their courage by only handcuffing a 16 year old "for their (heroes') safety" when they were completely justified in cutting him down with a hail of gunfire. Hopefully, they beat the crap out of him with their flashlites and tazered him several times to teach him to 'respect their authoritie'! I know the subjects of the Gulag of White Plains rest easier in their beds at night with heroes like this on guard.
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HandyHamlet
Regular Member
Oh, it gets better...
Coast Guard Website
http://aww.aww-sp.com/what_is.htm
What is "Suspicious Activity?"
"Am I witnessing a threat or a crime?" Most of us have found ourselves wondering this at some time or other. However, because we are not really sure, we tend to ignore what we have just seen and, hoping it wasn't so, we continue about our business. Prior to September 11, 2001 this would have been an acceptable reaction. But times have changed, and we no longer have that luxury.
Keeping in mind that "People aren't suspicious, behavior is," here are some situational examples of behaviors and activities that may help you determine what is suspicious and, thus, what should be reported:
PEOPLE TAKING STILL PHOTOGRAPHS OR VIDEO TAPING FROM THE SHORE
America's Waterway Watch gives normal citizens the ability to harness their "heightened sense of awareness" in a way that is both meaningful and productive. Because it is a personal system, where you logically determine what is suspicious, it is more understandable than any color-coded advisory system where the determination is made by others. And because it is a reporting system, you can actually do something with the information you observe and develop.
Simply agreeing to participate in America's Waterway Watch raises your awareness level one notch -- you know you have a job to do. Reading the program's material, you will realize that you are recognized as having a certain amount of expertise about the waterway environment you spend much of your time in -- you know what "normal activity" is and, conversely, what activity is "not normal." This expertise is invaluable to the professionals who will follow up on what you report -- another notch.
I bet Orwell is pissed he didn't think of this. ROLL ANTHEM!
Coast Guard Website
http://aww.aww-sp.com/what_is.htm
What is "Suspicious Activity?"
"Am I witnessing a threat or a crime?" Most of us have found ourselves wondering this at some time or other. However, because we are not really sure, we tend to ignore what we have just seen and, hoping it wasn't so, we continue about our business. Prior to September 11, 2001 this would have been an acceptable reaction. But times have changed, and we no longer have that luxury.
Keeping in mind that "People aren't suspicious, behavior is," here are some situational examples of behaviors and activities that may help you determine what is suspicious and, thus, what should be reported:
PEOPLE TAKING STILL PHOTOGRAPHS OR VIDEO TAPING FROM THE SHORE
America's Waterway Watch gives normal citizens the ability to harness their "heightened sense of awareness" in a way that is both meaningful and productive. Because it is a personal system, where you logically determine what is suspicious, it is more understandable than any color-coded advisory system where the determination is made by others. And because it is a reporting system, you can actually do something with the information you observe and develop.
Simply agreeing to participate in America's Waterway Watch raises your awareness level one notch -- you know you have a job to do. Reading the program's material, you will realize that you are recognized as having a certain amount of expertise about the waterway environment you spend much of your time in -- you know what "normal activity" is and, conversely, what activity is "not normal." This expertise is invaluable to the professionals who will follow up on what you report -- another notch.
I bet Orwell is pissed he didn't think of this. ROLL ANTHEM!
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Gunslinger
Regular Member
"Denouncing" worked so well during the French reign of terror, no reason it won't work just as well here. Now, I'm not saying just arrest and put into prison anyone denounced by anyone else--especially one of the cattle who would just walk into a government mandated slaughter house and think their neighbor may be one of them Tea Party militia types... I think special camps, say out in the Mojave Desert with nicely made tin roofed sheds for their comfort--and that of their families who would go with them, would work well. Let's see, what shall we call these camps? Concentration is a catchy one...
HandyHamlet
Regular Member
Mojave Family Re-education Center has a fuzzy feeling.
Gunslinger
Regular Member
Yeah, they'll let the inmates...I mean residents, plant Joshua Trees in front of the reeducation center building. And paint the box, for the malcontents that thought the BoR was real, in nice pastels...
eye95
Well-known member
And patriots. Don't forget that part.
We aren't there yet--to the point of blood-shedding. So how about stopping the advocacy for our shedding of our blood too?