Rich, you are asking me for the names of not just random officers but of my friends, one in particular is very adamant in his position no matter what paperwork or proof I show him. BTW all of them were also unaware of the Town Ordinance prohibiting concealed weapons, makes you wonder just who is "teaching them the laws".
You are objecting to me asking for the identity of people who have told you that they will violate rights and the law after being informed of the law?
Abuse under color of law is a federal offense, these officers need to be educated and informed before they make a very serious mistake.
Not to mention we/I hear all the time from people who say an officer told them this or that.
1) Never take legal advice from the police.
2) Those people can never 'remember' who they talked to or have some other reason to hide the name of a public official who has chose to disobey the law.
I for one will not believe someone who asserts that a faceless entity has told them this or that when all solid evidence (people OCing and even being briefly detained in New Britain) points to the contrary.
This forum has a 'cite to authority' rule. I believe that is coming into play here.
Not to change topics but a friend of mine and his wife went to Hamden PD for their pistol permits, they waited the 8 weeks and started calling about the status and were told that it would take another few weeks. My friends pointed out the state statute showing they must receive an answer within 8 weeks and this is what they were told not by one offficer but also a seargent, "That's an old law, nobody follows that anymore." With police officers out there making up there own laws on a daily basis it shows their mentality and what can happen even though the law is on your side.
And did he immediately file an appeal with the BFPE? Did he get the names of the officers involved and get anyone else involved in his defense?
Officers of the law do not make the law and in this state there are legal remedies when they try.
As I stated in an earlier post, as of right now no one I have heard of has successfully sued a PD for false arrest over an unlawful OC arrest, not that it may not happen soon, and Rich I really hope it does happen for you, the harrassment you received in Wallingford was absolutely wrong.
I don't understand how this is relevant. My case involved the officers learning before they booked me that BoP is not a valid charge for OC. Disorderly also fell flat immediately.
Explain what supports your assertion that if you OC you can be charged with BoP.
It seems to me that you are trying to cite anecdotal evidence that police can do whatever they want and charge you for whatever they want. If this is so, what difference does it make if you OC or not? They can just as easily stop, detain, ID and arrest you for anything else that is legal if what you are asserting is true.
Ex: I have never heard of anyone in CT successfully suing the police department for false arrest because they rode a unicycle in public. Clearly no one should ever ride a unicycle in public.
No one truly knows the number of OCers who have lost their permits or been charged, especially prior to this whole issue coming out in the last few years.
I can't prove a negative. But this doesn't mean that you are proving anything with wild speculation and anecdotal evidence. No one here is asserting that no one has ever been in trouble for OC before. But Goldberg's case was the last really bad one we had where the police not only arrested for BoP, but also revoked and destroyed his firearm. Stay in the parameters of the discussion, otherwise you are only building strawmen.
Remember, it was not to long ago that the BOFPE website stated you needed to keep your gun concealed from view.
And this was immediately withdrawn from their website when it was pointed out to them that it carried no power of law and that state law said nothing about firearms needing to be concealed.
I once saw something on a website that said horses can fly, but that holds about the same weight and relevance here.
Also Rich you state it did not cost you a dime to clear your name, did you not at least have to take a day off from work to appear in court, what about gas to and from court. Even a minor inconvenience like that would be a loss of money for me.
What does this have to do with anything? You can be arrested anytime, anywhere and for anything. And you will have to go defend yourself just like I did.
But you are trying to scare people out of legal activity because it might cost them a tank of gas? I don't get that.
Lastly, we all know that sometimes oficers make it up as they go along, how many permits have been seized by local PD incident to an arrest and sent off to DPS violating the state statute on revocations. I know of more than one. Some got it back others did not.
Again, irrelevant. All of those seizures were illegal. I cannot speak for the people involved and why they did not go after the police department about it, but there are cases going on right now that will be tightening this area up.
Again, just because the police got away with violating the law before doesn't mean that citizens have no legal remedies.
