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    SSA1-SB93 sent to Joint Finance

    SSA1-SB93 will be taken up by the Joint Finance Committee on Thursday, June 9 at 12:00 pm.
    http://committeeschedule.legis.wisconsin.gov/

    I have to check to see which Co-Sponsors are on this committee. I know Darling and Voss are not.

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    http://budget.wispolitics.com/2011/0...l-take-up.html

    To be technical, it is now SB93. SSA1, SSA1-SA3 and SSA1-SA4 have been incorporated.

    We need to get on this NOW!

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    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
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    Post Joint Committee's fiscal oversight duties

    The Joint Finance Committee just looks at fiscal stuff:
    Review of Other Fiscal Bills

    The Committee's fiscal oversight duties include
    the review of all other (non-budget) revenue or
    spending bills. This responsibility emanates from a
    statutory requirement [s. 13.093(1)] which specifies
    that, "All bills introduced in either house of the legis-
    lature for the appropriation of money, providing
    for revenue or relating to taxation shall be referred
    to the joint committee on finance before being
    passed."
    Here is a further description of what their responsibilities are: http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/Infor...%20Finance.pdf
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    this just has to pass with a simple majority too, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apierce918 View Post
    this just has to pass with a simple majority too, no?
    Correct. All votes on this bill would be a simple majority.

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    So any thoughts on approx. time frame in the Joint Finance Commitee..?? DO they address bills brought to them immeadiately or might it set there for a few days before being discussed..???

    I keep telling myself I should have paid more attention in my high school "Civics" class....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman1 View Post
    So any thoughts on approx. time frame in the Joint Finance Commitee..?? DO they adrees bills brought to them immeadiately or might it set there for a few days before being discussed..???

    I keep telling myself I should have paid more attention in my high school "Civics" class....

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    Personally, I would expect them to be done with it tomorrow unless something happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman1 View Post
    So any thoughts on approx. time frame in the Joint Finance Commitee..?? DO they address bills brought to them immeadiately or might it set there for a few days before being discussed..???

    I keep telling myself I should have paid more attention in my high school "Civics" class....

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    SB93 will be taken up by the Joint Finance Committee on Thursday, June 9 at 12:00 pm.
    http://committeeschedule.legis.wisconsin.gov/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman1 View Post
    I keep telling myself I should have paid more attention in my high school "Civics" class....

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    LoL you and me both. I'm still trying to remember what the Finance committee is allowed to do to the bill as far as modifications/amendments go. That singing bill on "Schoolhouse Rock" during my Saturday morning cartoons never mentioned a finance committee!<g>

    I am really and truly starting to wish this was all over, I think I'm starting to get an ulcer. Ahh well, hopefully we're in the home stretch now.

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    Olsen will be a tough nut to crack. If you recall, he voted for CCW the last time around and when it came time to over-ride Doyle's veto, this butt-munch was THE only GOP senator to vote against the over-ride.

    I queried him on CCW about 5-6 weeks back and he stated "Ohhhh, I have always been for CCW. But I have to wait to see how the winds blow regarding Constitutional Carry".

    About 2 weeks ago he came out in the Milwaukee Urinal and stated flat out that he would only support permits and training.

    My letter to all of the members of the committee meeting tomorrow:

    Dear friends,

    As duly elected and sworn members of the Wisconsin legislature, I would request your support for a bill coming before your committee tomorrow which has WI Constitutional implications. That bill is the amended version of SB93.

    Article 1 Section 25 of the WI Constitution that was approved by 74% of Wisconsin voters in 1998 states: The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security, defense, hunting, recreation or any other lawful purpose.

    Please keep the solemn oath that you took to defend the Wisconsin State Constitution in mind as you vote on this bill.

    Thank you,
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    Very good letter Grant. Tasteful
    Poor Obama. All this time, he thought he had been placed in charge of the GovernMINT.

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    EXECUTIVE SESSION
    Joint Committee on Finance

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    The committee will hold an executive session on the following items at the time specified below:
    Thursday, June 9, 2011
    12:00 PM
    412 East

    Senate Bill 93
    Relating to: going armed with weapons, possessing or transporting a firearm, bow, or crossbow under certain circumstances, disorderly conduct limitations, and electric weapons.
    By Senators Galloway, Grothman, Kedzie, Lazich, Leibham, Moulton, Holperin, Vukmir, Zipperer and Kapanke; cosponsored by Representatives Mursau, Kleefisch, August, Farrow, Kapenga, Kerkman, Kestell, Knilans, Knudson, Kooyenga, Kramer, Krug, Kuglitsch, T. Larson, LeMahieu, Murtha, Nass, Rivard, Severson, Strachota, Tauchen, Thiesfeldt, Wynn, Steineke and Craig.
    Senate Bill 27
    Relating to: state finances and appropriations, constituting the executive budget act of the 2011 legislature.
    By Joint Committee on Finance.
    The only action that will be considered on SB 27 will be a motion to apply the same action from AB 40 to SB 27
    Senator Alberta Darling
    Senate ChairRepresentative Robin Vos
    Assembly Chair

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    With Darling and Olsen you can figure it wont make it out of committee.
    I had to change my signature because you know who got upset about it.

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    If our voices are not heard by tomorrow, they will never be heard again.

    IMHO, they intend to kill the bill right here in committee and intro the SB126 later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf1477 View Post
    LoL you and me both. I'm still trying to remember what the Finance committee is allowed to do to the bill as far as modifications/amendments go. That singing bill on "Schoolhouse Rock" during my Saturday morning cartoons never mentioned a finance committee!<g>

    I am really and truly starting to wish this was all over, I think I'm starting to get an ulcer. Ahh well, hopefully we're in the home stretch now.
    You and me both....

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    Ive received 2 emails from Luther regarding CC...in both he said hed support which ever came the him...Im going to email him again tonight!

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    I emailed all of them as well, guess all we do is wait. Kinda sucks

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    Ive received 2 emails from Luther regarding CC...in both he said hed support which ever came the him...Im going to email him again tonight!

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    Cool Everybody, LOOK UP!

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryD View Post
    With Darling and Olsen you can figure it wont make it out of committee.
    How can two people hold it up when all that is required is a simple majority? Is the sky falling, too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryD View Post
    With Darling and Olsen you can figure it wont make it out of committee.
    You can bet the farm that Taylor, Jauch, Grigsby, and Shilling are noes. But those 4 are the only Dems on the 16 member committee, there's 12 Repubs. With those numbers, it should pass easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by safcrkr View Post
    You can bet the farm that Taylor, Jauch, Grigsby, and Shilling are noes. But those 4 are the only Dems on the 16 member committee, there's 12 Repubs. With those numbers, it should pass easily.
    Guess we will soon see if Darling and Olsen stand behind their party's platform and respect the state Constitution.
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    Still no official amendment, however, a memo:

    http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/2011-...09_SB93_LC.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul@paul-fisher.com View Post
    Still no official amendment, however, a memo:

    http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/2011-...09_SB93_LC.pdf
    I really don't like the Display of License Document. I thought this was a free country?

    This whole thing leaves a terrible taste in my mouth.
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