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Freedom First

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Oh sweet democracy...

amzbrady said:
Is this really what the masses voted for? Of course more amazing to me is how few Americans care.
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Remember, Democracy wasn't the original plan. A Republic and the Rule of Law was the intention, not the Rule of the Masses. Or perhaps, the du-masses.

"We have sometimes been tempted to define democracy as an institution in which the whole is equal to the scum of all the parts." Kieth Preston, Pot Shots from Pegasus

I love that quote. And here's another since I'm on a roll here.

"Democracy means government by the uneducated, while aristocracy means government by the badly educated." G.K. Chesterton, NY Times

Help me, I can't stop!

"The tyranny of a Prince in an oligarchy is not so dangerous to the public welfare as the apathy of a citizen in a democracy." Montesquieu, Spirit of the Laws

Oh, ouch. Last one... Really. Ok, just one more since you asked so nice...

"The problem of democracy is not the problem of getting rid of kings. It is the problem of clothing the whole people with the elements of kingship. To make kings and queens out of a hundred million people: that is the Problem of American democracy." F.C. Morehouse, The Problem of Democracy
 
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amzbrady

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Freedom First said:
Remember, Democracy wasn't the original plan. A Republic and the Rule of Law was the intention, not the Rule of the Masses. Or perhaps, the du-masses.

"We have sometimes been tempted to define democracy as an institution in which the whole is equal to the scum of all the parts." Kieth Preston, Pot Shots from Pegasus

I love that quote. And here's another since I'm on a roll here.

"Democracy means government by the uneducated, while aristocracy means government by the badly educated." G.K. Chesterton, NY Times

Help me, I can't stop!

"The tyranny of a Prince in an oligarchy is not so dangerous to the public welfare as the apathy of a citizen in a democracy." Montesquieu, Spirit of the Laws

Oh, ouch. Last one... Really. Ok, just one more since you asked so nice...

"The problem of democracy is not the problem of getting rid of kings. It is the problem of clothing the whole people with the elements of kingship. To make kings and queens out of a hundred million people: that is the Problem of American democracy." F.C. Morehouse, The Problem of Democracy
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This is one of my favorites...

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." Francis Bellamy 1892

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Badger Johnson

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Metalhead47 said:
Yknow, motorcycles "weave" in the lane all the time... Can anyone point out WERE in the rcw it defines weaving, or responsibility to stay in lane?
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Superb point. Even considering a MC as being narrower than most cars, drivers still react to them similarly. And HELL yes, MC weave and do stuff that looks dangerous as all get out. I rode a little Honda 250 back in the day - not like I'm anti-bike.

Part of it is the illusion that they're speeding when they just have insane acceleration, but whoa, lol. If they are going to stop car drivers for 'weaving' seems like every MC rider would be at risk for a stop.

Around here there is the highest population of MC riders I've ever seen in Virginia (F-burg). Trikes, quads, monster bikes with ape-hangers and room for two girls on the back. :)
 
77zach

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sudden valley gunner said:
Since I don't agree with the driving is a privilege idea, I agree with the officers discretion, especially since I was not engaged in any other "criminal" activity.
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Correct. Traveling is a moral and historical right. Just because it is widely regarded as a privilege by the state doesn't make it so. The current situation is a natural consequence of road socialism.
 
amlevin

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amzbrady said:
This is one of my favorites...

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." Francis Bellamy 1892

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If you are going to quote Francis Bellamy then at least use the version he wrote.

I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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It's been modified 4 times since he originally wrote it.
 
Metalhead47

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77zach said:
Correct. Traveling is a moral and historical right. Just because it is widely regarded as a privilege by the state doesn't make it so. The current situation is a natural consequence of road socialism.
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TRAVELING is a historical right. Operating a motor vehicle on a public roadway, however, is NOT.

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sigfan

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Tomas said:
Sigfan, I wrote about an officer's sudden change in demeanor when informed I was armed a while back...

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?73647-Officer-demeanor-change...

I'd chalk mine up to a "pretense stop" also, since I had broken no traffic laws or rules, and it was also a "catch and release."
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Good read Tomas. Thanks. I'm glad to see I'm not alone in this type of encounter.

To answer a few questions, I am fully aware that I am not required to tell them anything. I am also fully aware that I'd rather tell the cop before he even asks so there is no question and I don't end up shot by a jittery cop. I'd rather tell him and then fight any bad behavior afterward if there is any.
 
sudden valley gunner

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sigfan said:
To answer a few questions, I am fully aware that I am not required to tell them anything. I am also fully aware that I'd rather tell the cop before he even asks so there is no question and I don't end up shot by a jittery cop. I'd rather tell him and then fight any bad behavior afterward if there is any.
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I don't blame you for that sentiment. Seeing much of what has happened over the years.

Myself I am willing to chance it.
 
amzbrady

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sudden valley gunner said:
I don't blame you for that sentiment. Seeing much of what has happened over the years.

Myself I am willing to chance it.
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+1
I only answer the questions asked. I dont volunteer any info, and I dont strike up idle chit chat, they are doing a job, not on a quest to make friends. I just be sure to keep my hands visible at all times, and make no sudden movements. I also dont argue, I just stay polite and try to leave a good to no impression. I have said before, I dont want to wind up a statistic.
 
xxx.jakk.xxx

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I'm not sure of the area your in, but this is kind of weird. Yesterday my coworker was talking about the amazing corvette his friend just bought. It's completely tricked out and does about 90 in 3rd gear at, I think, 3500rpm. There very well could have been a corvette that you never saw. Lol.
 
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