safcrkr
Regular Member
I posted this over on AR15.com WIHTF. I base this on what the Dems griped about last week at the finance committee, and what they tried to put in the last bills in '03 & '05.
Here's some of the amendments the Dems are sure to offer:
Lots of additions to "no carry" areas, including sporting events (pro, college, high school), concerts, fairs, festivals (like Milwaukeefest), playgrounds, public parks, day-cares, churches.
Flip-flop of posting requirements, making all private businesses no-carry unless sign is posted welcoming carry.
Elimination of "car carry" without permit.
Increasing training requirements.
Not decreasing penalty for GFSZ without permit (bill takes away the felony except for school grounds).
Not allowing carry in GFSZ.
Putting permit data base in "open records".
Making cc without permit a felony.
I don't expect any of the above to pass.
These below might have a chance at passage:
Requiring proof of identification and WI residency by requiring copy of drivers license or photo ID in application (surprised that's not in the bill already).
Mandating that courts notify DOJ of all convictions of domestic battery, which would nullify gun ownership rights of anyone holding permit, so DOJ could revoke permit. Bill requires notification of felony convictions and restraining orders so DOJ can revoke/suspend permits. They'll argue domestic battery convictions should be included in the notifications. I have no counter argument as to why they should not. ?
The way the bill stands now, reciprocity is granted to all states' permits that require a background check. I'd expect the same training standards as WI residents to be added to reciprocity acceptance.
Putting a "tag" in DOT database on permit holders DLs and vehicle tags, so LEOs know when they run a plate or DL if there's a permit in hands of driver or vehicle owner. (LEOs want this one badly).
Here's some of the amendments the Dems are sure to offer:
Lots of additions to "no carry" areas, including sporting events (pro, college, high school), concerts, fairs, festivals (like Milwaukeefest), playgrounds, public parks, day-cares, churches.
Flip-flop of posting requirements, making all private businesses no-carry unless sign is posted welcoming carry.
Elimination of "car carry" without permit.
Increasing training requirements.
Not decreasing penalty for GFSZ without permit (bill takes away the felony except for school grounds).
Not allowing carry in GFSZ.
Putting permit data base in "open records".
Making cc without permit a felony.
I don't expect any of the above to pass.
These below might have a chance at passage:
Requiring proof of identification and WI residency by requiring copy of drivers license or photo ID in application (surprised that's not in the bill already).
Mandating that courts notify DOJ of all convictions of domestic battery, which would nullify gun ownership rights of anyone holding permit, so DOJ could revoke permit. Bill requires notification of felony convictions and restraining orders so DOJ can revoke/suspend permits. They'll argue domestic battery convictions should be included in the notifications. I have no counter argument as to why they should not. ?
The way the bill stands now, reciprocity is granted to all states' permits that require a background check. I'd expect the same training standards as WI residents to be added to reciprocity acceptance.
Putting a "tag" in DOT database on permit holders DLs and vehicle tags, so LEOs know when they run a plate or DL if there's a permit in hands of driver or vehicle owner. (LEOs want this one badly).
