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    Scotus rules collective bargaining law is valid

    Heard on the way home, WI SC ruled the CBL is the law of the land.

    Now we can get on with the real important things in life.








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    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    Not SCOTUS...

    WI supreme court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcav8r View Post
    WI supreme court.
    My mistake, you are correct sir.
    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    It must be Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandyHamlet View Post
    It must be Christmas.

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    http://youtu.be/M5QGkOGZubQ The SC to the Dems....
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    Great! i cant wait to go to work at my "cushy" prison job for less every week. I hope they dont charge me a copay next time I get shanked or get blood and piss thrown in my eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharodon View Post
    Great! i cant wait to go to work at my "cushy" prison job for less every week. I hope they dont charge me a copay next time I get shanked or get blood and piss thrown in my eyes.
    And did a union prevent all of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharodon View Post
    Great! i cant wait to go to work at my "cushy" prison job for less every week. I hope they dont charge me a copay next time I get shanked or get blood and piss thrown in my eyes.
    Want to pay my insurance premiums, co-pays and deductibles? I don't want to pay yours either. Don't like your job? Quit.
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    Last edited by HandyHamlet; 06-15-2011 at 08:59 PM. Reason: This thread NEEDS more POPCORN!
    "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharodon View Post
    Great! i cant wait to go to work at my "cushy" prison job for less every week. I hope they dont charge me a copay next time I get shanked or get blood and piss thrown in my eyes.
    So, please educate me.

    That sounds as though it would be something that happens "on the job". Are state workers not covered by workman's compensation insurance? Is it really their "personal" insurance that is required to pay in those circumstances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharodon View Post
    Great! i cant wait to go to work at my "cushy" prison job for less every week. I hope they dont charge me a copay next time I get shanked or get blood and piss thrown in my eyes.

    First off, you wont be paid any LESS. You pay rate isn't changed by the ruling nor the reduction of bargaining benefits. You will however be required to pay a little more for your benefits and retirement than before. Still a fraction of what most people in the private sector pay however. I appreciate that you don't want to pay more, that what was once given is not given anymore. I also know you are a tax payer and hope you understand the state can no longer afford to continue with what we had and expect alternative results.
    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    Meh. I'm in the same line of work, except for the feds instead of WI. We have no collective bargaining rights, and never have. We can form PACs and lobby, but we can't negotiate for wages or benefits. Whatever the Congress hands us, through whatever manipulations the Executive branch chooses, is what we get.

    Our most recent surprise is a change in how much we pay for our retirement contribution. Yeah, it sucks that I'm effectively taking a 5% pay cut, but I have a job, one that pays more than if I launched out into the private sector at age 48, after 20 years in this business. I'm not bitching. I know I'm better off than most of the people who pay for my job. Politically, I'm fighting for those people, not me. I'm no altruist: by fighting for the taxpayers, I'm fighting for myself and my children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    Meh. I'm in the same line of work, except for the feds instead of WI. We have no collective bargaining rights, and never have. We can form PACs and lobby, but we can't negotiate for wages or benefits. Whatever the Congress hands us, through whatever manipulations the Executive branch chooses, is what we get.

    Our most recent surprise is a change in how much we pay for our retirement contribution. Yeah, it sucks that I'm effectively taking a 5% pay cut, but I have a job, one that pays more than if I launched out into the private sector at age 48, after 20 years in this business. I'm not bitching. I know I'm better off than most of the people who pay for my job. Politically, I'm fighting for those people, not me. I'm no altruist: by fighting for the taxpayers, I'm fighting for myself and my children.

    Its too bad that most of those vocal minority folks protesting dont see it this way.
    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharodon View Post
    Great! i cant wait to go to work at my "cushy" prison job for less every week. I hope they dont charge me a copay next time I get shanked or get blood and piss thrown in my eyes.
    At least you get to go to work EVERY WEEK! Some of us private sector union guys have not worked for over a year!

    You public sector union guys make me want to vomit. The taxes paid by the public sector mean nothing compared to the taxes paid by the private sector- Why?, because the public sector is nothing but a drain on net production. Your cushy job really is cushy compared to being unemployed or under employed.

    Carcharodron, I appriciate your feelings about getting paid a little less, but try to keep in mind that your employer IS the private sector. How would you feel about getting paid NOTHING, like many of us in manufacturing are getting paid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oak1971 View Post
    Want to pay my insurance premiums, co-pays and deductibles? I don't want to pay yours either. Don't like your job? Quit.


    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy1 View Post
    First off, you wont be paid any LESS. You pay rate isn't changed by the ruling nor the reduction of bargaining benefits. You will however be required to pay a little more for your benefits and retirement than before. Still a fraction of what most people in the private sector pay however. I appreciate that you don't want to pay more, that what was once given is not given anymore. I also know you are a tax payer and hope you understand the state can no longer afford to continue with what we had and expect alternative results.


    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    Meh. I'm in the same line of work, except for the feds instead of WI. We have no collective bargaining rights, and never have. We can form PACs and lobby, but we can't negotiate for wages or benefits. Whatever the Congress hands us, through whatever manipulations the Executive branch chooses, is what we get.

    Our most recent surprise is a change in how much we pay for our retirement contribution. Yeah, it sucks that I'm effectively taking a 5% pay cut, but I have a job, one that pays more than if I launched out into the private sector at age 48, after 20 years in this business. I'm not bitching. I know I'm better off than most of the people who pay for my job. Politically, I'm fighting for those people, not me. I'm no altruist: by fighting for the taxpayers, I'm fighting for myself and my children.


    I'm in the same boat. We're PUBLIC SERVANTS. "Servant" is not exactly a distinguishing title is it? We're supposed to be providing services so that the public can efficiently create the commerce that allows us to have jobs in the first place. I just so happen to love my job. I don't know of ANY government employees who have anything to bitch about. It's great too see that there are more people like me in gov't that appreciate what jobs we have, and are not so self centered that we support politicians that steal more from the private sector just to give us meager wage increases.
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