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    Chicago Incident

    Wonder if the officer had his firearm in the vehicle or on his person? Sounds like he didn't have his firearm and used the robbers gun to shoot him. Easy pickens in Chicago for criminals...thats for sure.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...3_lnk1%7C71602

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    All we need now is a clown dressed as a police officer to hit a mugger in the face with a slice of 2A keylime pie.
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    Prime example of "don't judge a book by it cover" and "appearance isn't everything." This guy probably thought he had an easy target. Good thing the clown/police officer/person was able to protect himself.
    "When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger Johnson
    All we need now is a clown dressed as a police officer to hit a mugger in the face with a slice of 2A keylime pie.
    A waste of a good pie, if you ask me.
    A bullet is cheaper & makes more of a permanent impression.

    Here are several more reports of the same incident; interesting how one says the officer was struggling w/ the robber & the gun "discharged", the other 2 say the officer got control of the gun then shot.

    If it's the first, no problem.
    If it's the second, BIG problem. The officer had control of the pistol, he was arguably no longer in imminent danger. At least, that's what they'd say if it were a regular citizen instead of a citizen employed by a LEA.

    Actually, in the case of a regular citizen, that person would probably be charged with illegal possession of a firearm. That's a felony in Chicago, right?

    (But we all know this story is a hoax. Nobody other than police can have a gun outside their home, right? And carrying concealed is illegal.)
    Last edited by MKEgal; 06-19-2011 at 04:41 PM.

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    You make a good point. It shows two things, and oddly the second one is more illustrative of what happens in a true SD situation.

    First, it shows that the law is applied differently if you are a LEO or a government official. They just couch the report differently and find ways to not see an 'error' (i.e. if he had the gun the threat was no longer there and he had no reason to shoot).

    The second point is that in a true SD situation people do things in extremis that an ordinary calm person with time to think, not being scared, may not do. For example people emptying their HG and continuing to squeeze the trigger on an empty gun (revolver, or single-action). The BG was dead at the second shot - there was no reason to keep shooting. OMG, you can't apply REASON when you're terrified and not in control of your actions. Yet we citizens are held to this higher standard when you think about it and LEOs are NOT. Notice when they confront a guy who raises a gun in a scene where there are ten officers hiding behind their squad cars, does the guy get shot once and dropped thus STOPPING the threat? No, all ten unload their entire magazines and it's considered a 'good shoot'. If a civilian and his partner did that, and shot 40 times, and the coroner says the second shot killed him, they'd be brought up on charges for aggravated something-or-other.

    So, in essence, I understand why he shot the guy. He was in fear-mode and not really rational. I think it qualifies, though not 'on paper' as a good shoot because of that.

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    Last edited by Badger Johnson; 06-19-2011 at 06:59 PM.
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