carracer
Regular Member
Just curious, could you point to the other forum for me? PM if you would rather.
Do you have any problem serving alcohol to people who might be CCing car keys?? Drunk drivers kill more people in one day, than are killed by firearms in a year....:banghead:
I thought it was a felony to possess a firearm and be intoxicated.
That's the way conservation said it to me when they thought we had been drinking at a self patrolled shooting range in the boonies.
Maybe I need to find one of those little counter-top breathalyzers to aid with this project.
Of course that still doesn't address the issue of just what standard would be applied and it possibly would be damaging that it could be proven I "knew" they had a .03 when I served them one.
I think that communication should say it all.The biggest thing is to just go with what's legally correct.
If there's an extra liability for your restaurant for doing A & B but not C, then go with the one that's best for you.
...It appears in Idaho it may be .04 of CC is involved, maybe not...Look at your local state law, I am sure they have some "number" that is used to indicate "intoxicated".
Other than in a more or less private setting of other "gun people", or a range, I don't think any responsible person would draw unless threatened.
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I would just treat carriers the same way I treat drivers. If they're getting tipsy i stop serving them. They dont like it they can leave. Besides, drunk drivers are MUCH more dangerous than drunken carriers.
I usually don't drink to excess while carrying but on the occasion that i find myself having a few too many i empty my pistol, clear the chamber and hand the magazine to a friend...kind of like giving the keys to a DD, but this way we both can keep drinking because alone we really can't do any SERIOUS damage. Of course i could alway pistol whip someone if i needed to.
The current law in WI (for OC) is similar, but when I chased down what they meant by "under the influence" it got strange.In Idaho:
18-3302B.Carrying concealed weapons under the influence of alcohol or drugs. It shall be unlawful for any person to carry a concealed weapon on or about his person when intoxicated or under the influence of an intoxicating drink or drug. Any violation of the provisions of this section shall be a misdemeanor.
http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title18/T18CH33SECT18-3302B.htm
I thought it was a felony to possess a firearm and be intoxicated.
That's the way conservation said it to me when they thought we had been drinking at a self patrolled shooting range in the boonies.
no numbers here.
18-3302B.Carrying concealed weapons under the influence of alcohol or drugs. It shall be unlawful for any person to carry a concealed weapon on or about his person when intoxicated or under the influence of an intoxicating drink or drug. Any violation of the provisions of this section shall be a misdemeanor.
http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title18/T18CH33SECT18-3302B.htm
Somewhere in Idaho's there is a definition of "imparied". Sometimes it is the same as under the influence, sometimes not. The differences is to cover those times when a LEO is not comfortable with a person driving away from a traffic stop, even if the breathilizer says less than say .08. Different states/countries, different definitions. In Sweden it is 0.02!
Look in the driving regs as well as the definitions sections of the CC law. I can't do too much indepth research, I'm on dial-up.
...Oh, BTW: These are the same ones you see driving down the road talking on their cell phones..