MackdaddyMP21
Regular Member
I have a question for those of you who have read the bill thoroughly and understand it better than I. Obviously, police harrassment (most of the time illegally) has occured numerous times while openly carrrying a firearm in WI. Such as police investigating, detaining, questioning, demanding identification, etc, from an individual with no probable cause that he/she has, is, or will be committing a crime.
Will police have free reign to demand to see your concealed carry permit without any type of probable cause? I realize if the gun is concealed, how will they know etc.... but I could definitely see more and more of this happening and problems arising. Anything from simple conversations with police, or a traffic accident, moving violation.... i wonder if police will be fishing for more reasons to investigate an individual more thoroughly.
I guess my main question is, does having a cc permit require me to show it to law enforcement upon request?
I have found the following paragraph from an amendment for SB93.
Display of License Document
Under the substitute amendment, unless a licensee or out-of-state licensee is carrying a concealed weapon in his or her own dwelling or place of business or on land that he or she owns, leases, or legally occupies, a licensee must have with him or her his or her license document and photographic identification card and an out-of-state licensee must have with him or her his or her out-of-state license and photographic identification card at all times during which he or she is carrying a concealed weapon. A licensee or out-of-state licensee who is carrying a concealed weapon must display the license and identification to a law enforcement officer upon the request of the law enforcement officer while the law enforcement officer is acting in an official capacity and with lawful authority.
A person who violates either of the above requirements may be required to forfeit not more than $25 except that the a person is exempt from this penalty if he or she presents his or her license document and photographic identification to the law enforcement agency within 48 hours.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/lcamendmemo/sb93
Carry on,
Brandon
Will police have free reign to demand to see your concealed carry permit without any type of probable cause? I realize if the gun is concealed, how will they know etc.... but I could definitely see more and more of this happening and problems arising. Anything from simple conversations with police, or a traffic accident, moving violation.... i wonder if police will be fishing for more reasons to investigate an individual more thoroughly.
I guess my main question is, does having a cc permit require me to show it to law enforcement upon request?
I have found the following paragraph from an amendment for SB93.
Display of License Document
Under the substitute amendment, unless a licensee or out-of-state licensee is carrying a concealed weapon in his or her own dwelling or place of business or on land that he or she owns, leases, or legally occupies, a licensee must have with him or her his or her license document and photographic identification card and an out-of-state licensee must have with him or her his or her out-of-state license and photographic identification card at all times during which he or she is carrying a concealed weapon. A licensee or out-of-state licensee who is carrying a concealed weapon must display the license and identification to a law enforcement officer upon the request of the law enforcement officer while the law enforcement officer is acting in an official capacity and with lawful authority.
A person who violates either of the above requirements may be required to forfeit not more than $25 except that the a person is exempt from this penalty if he or she presents his or her license document and photographic identification to the law enforcement agency within 48 hours.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/lcamendmemo/sb93
Carry on,
Brandon