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    Terror Plot foiled in Seattle

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...orplot24m.html

    This hits close to home for me. I have a Grandson that is currently in and out of this facility as he is now a brand new member of the US Army.

    Apparently their plan was to storm the guard, overpowering and killing him, and then proceeding to the Cafeteria where they would shoot as many as possible. These people were fully aware that once they made it past the guards they were in a defenseless, target rich, environment.

    And the government wants to continue keeping these facilities "Gun Free" just like Ft. Hood. Wouldn't these idiots have been surprised if one change was made in the rules and most of those in the Cafeteria were armed when they came through the door?

    There's coming! Sooner or later some group like this is going to be successful. The only reason this group wasn't is because they got "ratted out". Next time????
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    alleging they purchased machine guns and grenades from a paid police informant
    When will anti-government types learn.

    Anytime someone offers you an NFA item without a legal transfer (tax stamp), then it's a frigg'n TRAP!

    SBS, check.
    SBR, check.
    Machine gun, check.
    Silencer, check.
    Hand-grenade, check. Huh! Wait a second...
    Pen gun, check.
    Etc.



    It's their go-to tactic to get an easier conviction on the charges, and stiffer penalties (or at least a pretty sure fire conviction on the NFA charge). Plus it demonizes the suspects in the media (ohhhhh, machine guns!).

    Sure, terrorists are bad, terrorism is bad. I'm just pointing out the obvious.
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    Wait!

    I thought you could just by assault weapons and machine guns at gun shows with no background checks?

    How did this happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogodawgs View Post
    I thought you could just by assault weapons and machine guns at gun shows with no background checks?

    How did this happen?
    Its a new Government Program. They've already tried operation "Gun Runner" and "Gun Walker". Now they are thinkng about calling this "Gun Stroller".

    What would have been funny is after they sold the M-16 and grenades to these guys, the "terrorists" changed their mind and attacked the Homeland Security Offices instead using the very weapons they provided.

    A part of me would see this as "poetic justice" considering all the looney tunes "operations" that seem to go wrong like the "Gun Walker" scandal.
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    This is clearly a false story.

    Everyone knows it's illegal to have firearms on federal property, so he never could have even gotten his guns into the building to start shooting.

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    They originally wanted to go to Ft. Lewis, but thought there would be too many soldiers with weapons. I guess they don't know that all Military bases are unarmed victim zones like schools. We are only allowed to OC in Afghanistan, and Iraq.
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    Wannabe terrorists are here, and they donít shop at gun shows

    The arrest of two suspected would-be terrorists who allegedly plotted to attack a Seattle-area military recruiting office shows that the Pacific Northwest is not immune to dangerous nutballs, and also revealed one other thing: they did not go shopping for weapons at a local gun show.


    http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-i...p-at-gun-shows

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    I have always misinterperated the term "Armed Forces", and the fact that our military was created to keep this country and this countries borders safe from invasion. Our military is not armed, at least not here, and this country is not safe and has been invaded by hundreds of thousands of Illegal Immigrants. We are being taken over from within. Just imagine the voting power they will have in 15 to 20 years, I see barely english speaking people of different nationalities (except asians), breeding like jackrabbits and hauling around 3, 4, and 5 kids in a pack. I have trouble understanding how they can afford this many kids, a new car, tattoo's, and gold jewlery. I am also constantly amazed at how many come to where I work and purchase items regularly using $100 bills, They open their wallets and make me wish I had that much money. I just hope one day our military will be used for what they were intended. "The safety of America". But then again, is this not why we all carry, becuase we can not rely on others for our safety?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Workman View Post
    [b] they did not go shopping for weapons at a local gun show.
    So what if they did. It would still not be a reason to infringe on the right to make private firearm sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    Our military is not armed, at least not here,
    Looking back on my Army days, I wonder if it would be a good thing to allow our "troops" to keep their firearms with them as well as a full complement of ammo, at all times. I can remember some nights in the barracks when most of the platoon would come back from "maneuvers" at the EM Club, some barely able to crawl, much less walk, and the antics they pulled. Some weird games were invented like "Artillery". Some surgical tubing, a bunk bed, a few bars of soap, and a foot locker as a target? Ever get hit by an errant bar of soap launched by a makeshift "slingshot" supported by the uprights of a bunk bed?

    Just think what might have happened with live ammo. I do believe there's a reason that the arms are kept in the armory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mik253 View Post
    its funny how were fighting wars overseas when over 30,000 deaths have happend right on our border from mexican drug cartels since 2006, and some cartels now have ARMORED TANKS! They kidnap american citizens and make them fight in gladiator death matches for entertainment, they keep finding mass graves of bodies but god forbid we put any troops down there cuz thats not "PC" and we might offend someone.
    Fascinating stuff! Care to share some links to your source of this information? Armored Tanks? Gladiator Death Matches?

    Please share with some articles or links to same.
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    yeah I think the tank comment is a bit out there, I mean the drug cartels numbers may be a lot of turn coat mexican military but I doubt a whole tank division ditched the ranks and took a tank with them. the gladiator death matches isn't too far fetched from American citizens being kidnapped and ransomed then slaughtered after the money comes in.
    Whoever thought switching to your sidearm was faster than reloading your rifle has never been hit in the **** with a swinging barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApacheBunny View Post
    yeah I think the tank comment is a bit out there, I mean the drug cartels numbers may be a lot of turn coat mexican military but I doubt a whole tank division ditched the ranks and took a tank with them.
    "Tank" overstates it a bit. Think "pickup truck with steel plate armor welded on".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApacheBunny View Post
    the gladiator death matches
    How do our UFC matches differ from a Gladiator match when you take away weapons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    How do our UFC matches differ from a Gladiator match when you take away weapons?

    Hot ring girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_pro2a View Post
    Hot ring girls.
    But do we know that "They" don't have the same, both now in Mexico where the rumor says these fights are taking place, or back in the Roman Days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Hardin View Post
    "Tank" overstates it a bit. Think "pickup truck with steel plate armor welded on".

    They've also used up-armored Catepillar dozers.

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    "not a lot of people carrying weapons"

    But after the call, Abdul-Latif and the informant studied Fort Lewis on the Internet. Abdul-Latif devised a new plan. He had served in the U.S. Navy in the 1990s and now decided they should hit a military recruiting station downtown. That would give them a tactical edge

    "It's a confined space, not a lot of people carrying weapons, and we'd have an advantage," Abdul-Latif said.
    Therefore, it is logical to believe that if everyone in the building had weapons the recruiting station would not be a target.

    The duo had been busy for days, according to the complaint. They had scoped out the processing center, noting security cameras and an armed guard. ("We'll just kill him right away ... we can kill him first," Abdul-Latif had said earlier.)
    "This is what I'm going to do: I'm gonna post guard. I'm gonna come in, pop-pop the security guard. Run into the cafeteria, lay everybody down in there. Pop-pop-pop-pop. 'Get on the ground, get on the ground, get on the ground!' And these officers right here, pop-pop-pop-pop."
    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...orplot25m.html
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    Here are cites for the articles Milk253 was talking about.

    Drug Cartel armored tank..... a bit more than a pick up truck one sees on the news from 3rd world contries..... it is built on a semi chasis...
    http://www.businessinsider.com/el-mo...ug-wars-2011-5

    Plus their submarine(s)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12461089

    The story on Mexican cartels using kidnap victims for gladiator fights for entertainment....
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-contests.html

    http://publicintelligence.net/mexica...artels-mayhem/

    Drug cartels reach cronicaled by LA Times
    http://projects.latimes.com/mexico-drug-war/#/its-a-war

    So for those who posted above that wanted links to these stories or thought Milks comments "were out there" here is your proof.

    And yes I have a vested intrest my sister-in-laws family lost their ranch to these thugs. And remember Mexico heavily restricts private gun ownership - maybe someone can tell the cartels.....

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    Thanks for the posts, Lante and Mik253. Eye opening!

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    Damn stupid Muslim extremists.

    I took my oath at that MEPS.

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    It is great they were able to stop this before it developed into a reality.
    It is also noted it was reported that a convicted felon reported the planning of this attack.

    I am sure there are or will be many more incidents related to these extremist that want to do what ever harm they can do, next time I only hope it will be stopped before innocent life is lost, who knows it might be stopped by Joe Citizen exercising their right to bear arms.

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