Thank you Brokensproket...
It has been talked about on here quite a bit in the past about how they are in violation of 66.0409. If it was not clear enough to us already, the point should be very clear under SB93. While the State will now allow handugns to be carried in state parks with a permit, it also prohibits Counties, Cities, Villages, Townships from probiting handguns in thier parks.
If is was not clear enough for the League of Municipalities before, it should be definitive now.
Thank you Brokensproket...
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What is the reference for that? I would like to pass it along to the local parks department.
Well they might still believe that they can prohibit firearms in parks by non-permitted people.
But here's the language that allows permit-holding people to have handguns in state parks:
29.089 (2) of the statutes is renumbered
29.089 (2) (intro.) and amended to read:
29.089 (2) (intro.) Except as provided in sub. (3), no
person may have in his or her possession or under his or
her control a firearm on land located in state parks or state
fish hatcheries unless the firearm is unloaded and
enclosed within a carrying case. This subsection does not
apply to any of the following:
....29.089 (2) (d) A licensee, as defined in s. 175.60 (1)
(d), or an out−of−state licensee, as defined in s. 175.60 (1)
(g), if the firearm is a handgun, as defined in s. 175.60 (1)
Failure to comply may result in discipline up to and including termination.
The free man is a warrior. - Nietzsche "Twilight of the Idols"
Has anyone thought about getting a legislator to introduce some "teeth" to 66.0409? Something to keep tyrants like Soglin at bay?
Lex malla, lex nulla
I want it to go so far, that it forces counties and cities to remove all the unenforcable ordinances that have been left on the books just because they are not being enforced.
Originally Posted by ShotgunNo, firearms are still prohibited unless:Originally Posted by xenophon
a1) it's a handgun
a2) in possession of a licensee
b) unloaded & encased
Last edited by MKEgal; 06-27-2011 at 03:35 PM.
Originally Posted by MLK, JrOriginally Posted by MSG LaigaieOriginally Posted by Proverbs 27:12Originally Posted by Proverbs 31:17
To be honest, I don't think we'll be able to get anything changed until next year, or maybe even next legislative season (2013-2014?), and that is if we keep the majorities and governors mansion.
Won't hurt to try though.
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The formatting is goofing you up. That's one long clause, not 2 separate pieces of code.
You're reading it as:
...does not apply:
- to a licensee or out of state licensee
- if the firearm is a handgun as defined .....
That's not the wording, it's all 1 statute...
It doesn't apply "to a licensee or out of state licensee if the firearm is a handgun"29.089 (2) (d) A licensee, as defined in s. 175.60 (1) (d), or an out-of-state licensee, as defined in s. 175.60 (1) (g), if the firearm is a handgun, as defined in s. 175.60 (1) (bm).
Originally Posted by ShotgunThe preemption statute says that local gov't can't have a law that's more restrictive than state law.Originally Posted by BROKENSPROKET
So as Auric says, a locality may still decide that it can ban non-licensees from carrying in a local park,
just like the state bans them from a state park.
I can see a judge reading the law that way.
When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
Why do police carry guns?
The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
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Not that Soglin isn't a piece of garbage for any number of reasons but I'm not so sure the draft doesn't violate the constitutional prohibition of involuntary servitude. Not only that but it makes for a worse military than an all volunteer force. I'm anti-draft.
Lex malla, lex nulla