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    First time carrying to another state

    Traveling to Ohio on Sunday for a Baptisim and was wondering if you guys have any tips or gotchas for Ohio. Do they have the same no CC in a Church without permission as we do here in Michigan ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FS23 View Post
    Traveling to Ohio on Sunday for a Baptisim and was wondering if you guys have any tips or gotchas for Ohio. Do they have the same no CC in a Church without permission as we do here in Michigan ?
    Places off-limits when carrying:
    The law sets forth several places where your license does not allow
    you to carry a handgun. Under the law, you may not carry a concealed
    handgun into the following places:
    • Police stations
    • Sheriffs’ offices
    • Highway Patrol posts.
    • Premises controlled by the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Identification
    and Investigation.
    • Correctional institutions or other detention facilities
    • Airport terminals or commercial airplanes.
    • Institutions for the care of mentally ill persons.
    • Courthouses or buildings in which a courtroom is located.
    • Universities, unless locked in a motor vehicle or in the process of
    being locked in a motor vehicle.
    • Places of worship, unless the place of worship permits otherwise.
    • Child day-care centers.
    • Licensed D-Liquor Permit premises in which any person is consuming
    liquor.
    Concealed firearms are banned in premises for which a D permit
    has been issued or in an open air arena for which a permit
    of that nature has been issued. There are some exceptions to this
    prohibition. The prohibition does not apply to principal holder
    of D permit as long as principal holder is not consuming liquor.
    The prohibition does not apply to an agent or employee of the
    principal holder who is also a peace officer who is also off duty.
    Possession of a concealed firearm is allowed in a retail store with
    a D-6 or D-8 permit as long as concealed carry license holder is
    not consuming liquor. Class D permits are generally issued to an
    establishment that sells alcohol for consumption on the premises.
    In any event, be certain of the type of permit and whether liquor is
    being consumed before you enter with a concealed handgun.
    • Government facilities that are not used primarilys a shelter,
    restroom, parking facility for motor vehicles, or rest facility and
    is not a courthouse or a building or structure in which a courtroom
    is located.
    • School safety zones.
    A “school safety zone” includes a school, school building, school
    premises, school activity, and school bus. For purposes of this statute,
    a school includes everything up to the property boundary.
    The law generally forbids the carrying of a handgun in a school
    safety zone unless all of the following apply:
    • You do not enter a school building, premises or activity;
    and
    • You have a concealed carry license or temporary emergency
    license; and
    • You are not otherwise in one of the forbidden places listed
    above and detailed in R.C. 2923.126 (B); or
    • You are a driver or passenger in a motor vehicle immediately
    in the process of picking up or dropping off a child, and you
    are not otherwise in violation of the laws governing transportation
    of firearms in motor vehicles.
    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
    - Miranda vs Arizona 384 US 436

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    My best advice regarding out of state carry, regardless of where one is from, is don't OC unless in your home state, or a gold star state. The consequences of an interstate legal battle, and the complications of combining 2 states laws, it's more than you want to handle. As such, I highly suggest learning the laws fairly well, then keeping your gun(s) hidden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
    My best advice regarding out of state carry, regardless of where one is from, is don't OC unless in your home state, or a gold star state. The consequences of an interstate legal battle, and the complications of combining 2 states laws, it's more than you want to handle. As such, I highly suggest learning the laws fairly well, then keeping your gun(s) hidden.

    I agree... unless I had a high level of familiarity with a state's firearm laws regarding open carry, I would keep my pistol CC for the duration.

    I would download their CC booklet: http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/f...s-Booklet.aspx

    This came from here, which is a very useful website for firearms related laws both in Michigan and out-of-state:
    http://handgunlaw.us
    specifically while travelling to Ohio:
    http://handgunlaw.us/states/ohio.pdf
    Last edited by DrTodd; 06-28-2011 at 02:39 PM.
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    Thank you gentlemen !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
    My best advice regarding out of state carry, regardless of where one is from, is don't OC unless in your home state, or a gold star state. The consequences of an interstate legal battle, and the complications of combining 2 states laws, it's more than you want to handle. As such, I highly suggest learning the laws fairly well, then keeping your gun(s) hidden.
    The only reason a state becomes a gold star state is if they allow open carry in a car. NC is a gold star state but localities are allowed to restrict/prohibit open carry.
    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
    - Miranda vs Arizona 384 US 436

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    I concur with what has been stated here. I recently went on a 9 Day, 13 State, 4500 Mile Trip. I CC'ed where ever I was legally able to (have my MI CPL). The link to the experience follows.

    http://www.migunowners.org/forum/sho...d.php?t=139199

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