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    Happy 4th of july everyone !

    Let's all take a moment to reflect & remember what this day is all about, although I am sure you already know.



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    Thumbs up Thanks G-Man! It's Always Nice To See True Patriotism!

    Thanks again!
    “The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the People of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” -- Samuel Adams

    “Today, we need a nation of Minutemen. Citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.”

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    The colors of the American flag are what they are for a reason:

    Red: For the blood that was shed in defense of this nation.

    White: For the purity of the ideals and the god given rights that this country was founded on.

    Blue: For the honor that we should all have as a result of having the most freedom of any country in the world.

    And though the 4th is not the day our nation was born, it is the day we celebrate our Independence. So Yes,

    HAPPY Independence DAY Everyone!!!
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    "The Star Spangled Banner" ...Like You've Never Heard It Before!

    If you've never seen this, it'll wow you... especially if you've got kids or grandkids. I cannot hear that song now without this video being in my head. Turn up the volume. These girls are awesome.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJRkUO_odo

    After that one, watch this one too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMzmvrPRuTs

    Happy Independance Day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by safcrkr View Post
    "The Star Spangled Banner" ...Like You've Never Heard It Before!

    If you've never seen this, it'll wow you... especially if you've got kids or grandkids. I cannot hear that song now without this video being in my head. Turn up the volume. These girls are awesome.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJRkUO_odo

    After that one, watch this one too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMzmvrPRuTs

    Happy Independance Day!

    I just sent that link of those girls singing our national anthem to my entire family. Those kids do the song perfectly. The way it is meant to be sang. Thanks for the link my friend.
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    http://youtu.be/d3t-Rldgzc4

    EXCELLENT MOVIE, i RECOMMEND IT Mr Hollands Opus
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    http://youtu.be/xWgVGu3OR4U AACFI, Wisconsin / Minnesota Carry Certified. Action Pistol & Advanced Action pistol concepts + Urban Carbine course. When the entitlement Zombies begin looting, pillaging, raping, burning & killing..remember HEAD SHOTS it's the only way to kill a Zombie. Stockpile food & water now.

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    The 4th of July is the day we get to celebrate living in the greatest country in the world and the day we honor those who paid the ultimate sacrifice to defend our way of life.

    Happy Independence Day!!!!!!

    By the way, good videos everybody
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    ✰✰✰✰✰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰ If You're Proud To Be An American Wave
    ✰✰✰✰✰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰ This Flag In Honor Of The Fallen Men
    ✰✰✰✰✰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰ And Women Who Serve Our Country
    ✰✰✰✰✰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰ And For Those Who Are Still Fighting
    ☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰☰ THANKS AMERICAN SOLDIERS!
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    Exclamation PROUD to be an Amreican

    I am PROUD to be an American, a free person living in the Greatest Land Blessed by God.

    I am PROUD to have worn the Uniform of the Armed Forces (Air Force) of the United States.

    I am PROUD of the members of our Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, and Coast Guard of the United States of America and I am proud of the great job they do defending our freedoms.

    All of the Freedoms we enjoy, and many people take for granted, were paid for in the blood of patriotic Americans. This was true in 1776 and it is true today.

    As a tribute to those brave men and women, I offer a link to a very touching song; ANGEL FLIGHT.

    Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgkxiqKj0nU
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    Just a suggestion, but I've refrained from using the "Happy 4th of July" thing, and exclusively use "Happy Independence Day". Seeing people on tv/internet that had not a clue why we celebrate the "4th of July" changed my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock34 View Post
    Let's all take a moment to reflect & remember what this day is all about, although I am sure you already know.



    http://youtu.be/xWgVGu3OR4U



    GOOD SONG >>> http://youtu.be/7RH5UEwO5us
    His pappy knew how to bend a G-string or two also

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8yZPVYFc0M





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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurchiron View Post
    His pappy knew how to bend a G-string or two also

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8yZPVYFc0M





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    Happy independence day!

    HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!


    What do we really have to celebrate? It almost feels like all those who have paid the ultimate price for FREEDOM, for LIFE, LIBERTY & PROPERTY have done so in vain, It is so frustrating what things have amounted to in 2011 and it didn't happen suddenly, It's been a gradual process even as far back as 1871, the erosion of our freedom & liberty, the systematic brainwashing, programming & dumbing down of we the masses into a thoughtless stupor of apathy, celebrity worship, the pursuit of material junk, the loss of morals and values, the destruction of families by the elites who want to own you, your heart mind soul and property! WAKE UP from your amnesia AMERICA before you find yourself a slave on this global plantation! The magnitude of how bad things really are with the grave threats to your LIFE, LIBERTY, PROPERTY and UN-ALIENABLE RIGHTS are far beyond what you may imagine! We still have a small window of opportunity to take back what is ours from the big corporations and their representatives in Congress, the international wanker bankers, the psycopathic elites, house of Rothchild and all of their ilk.

    God Bless to all of you and your family and friends today in all earnestness!!! PLEASE watch this short 9min video "The Philosophy of Liberty" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei0ch-y7r5c

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    The Foreclosure of America by Michael Badnarik

    http://www.constitutionpreservation....losure-america


    As you are painfully aware, life in the United States is changing. Not the hope and change promised in the 2008 election process, but the kind of change where you watch the American economy collapse before your eyes... helpless to do anything about it. The number of banks and financial institutions that have failed recently is dwarfed by the number of people who are worried about, or currently being threatened with, foreclosure on their homes.

    As bad as that may be, that is not the foreclosure I am referring to in the title of this article. The rest of the world will soon be foreclosing on the totality of the United States. And while it may be impractical to evict three hundred million people from the middle of the North American continent, it is clear that life as we knew it will never be the same. Hell. We already have millions of people here who are sharing our space, but not sharing the rent, so to speak. Furthermore, as bad as things are today, I can almost guarantee that twelve months from now you'll be wishing things could be as good as they are right now. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think I would look back on a Bill Clinton presidency with some fondness.

    The cause of all the pain and suffering we are and will be experiencing is due to our forfeiture of American values. As a people, we have failed to uphold the ideal and principle that made this country great. Namely - INDEPENDENCE. That's why Monday is important to me. Because it's Independence Day, not because it's the fourth day of July. Not because there will be parades and picnics and frisbees and fireworks. All of those things are symbols of celebration, however we have nothing to celebrate. We have lost our own Liberty because we failed in our responsibility to defend the Liberty of others. This process has been happening since before the War of Northern Aggression. In 1841, Fredrick Douglass, a black leader of the abolitionist movement, was asked to speak at a large Independence Day celebration. Here is a short excerpt from his speech.
    I say it with a sad sense of the disparity between us. I am not included within the pale of this glorious anniversary! Your high independence only reveals the immeasurable distance between us. The blessings in which you, this day, rejoice are not enjoyed in common. The rich inheritance of justice, liberty, prosperity, and independence bequeathed by your fathers is shared by you, not by me. The sunlight that brought light and healing to you has brought stripes and death to me. This Fourth of July is yours, not mine. You may rejoice, I must mourn. To drag a man in fetters into the grand illuminated temple of liberty, and call upon him to join you in joyous anthems, were inhuman mockery and sacrilegious irony. Do you mean, citizens, to mock me by asking me to speak today? If so, there is a parallel to your conduct. And let me warn that it is dangerous to copy the example of nation whose crimes, towering up to heaven, were thrown down by the breath of the Almighty, burying that nation in irrevocable ruin! I can today take up the plaintive lament of a peeled and woe-smitten people.
    We have become the largest welfare/warfare country in the world, spending unconscionable amounts of money on unconstitutional wars and foreign aid. Americans prefer to let the government take responsibility for their retirement, health care, financial stability, national security, and their children's education. Needless to say, the government has failed miserably on each of these projects, but we continue to vote the same corrupt politicians into office over and over again. Not all, but most Americans are unwilling to pay the price of freedom, and some are too afraid to even ask the price. (To find the answer, watch this two minute video, but be prepared for "sticker shock".)

    Instead of following the crowd this year, and pretending that we have successfully carried the torch of Liberty handed down to us by the Founding Fathers, join with me in bringing attention to the elephant (and donkey) in the room that everyone is carefully ignoring. Instead of wearing Red, White, and Blue this year, I invite you to wear black. The purpose is to draw attention to our many problems, and give us the motivation we need to talk about them - and perhaps even the courage we need to overcome them. There is a Facebook page that gives slightly more information in you're interested.

    You should know that I am changing my signature closing. In the past I have ended newsletters and and eMail messages with:
    Lighting the fires of Liberty, one heart at a time!
    From now on I will remind you that
    When I die, Liberty is no longer my problem.

    I wish you and your family a safe and somber holiday.

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    Welcome to OCDO, where the newbies usually do not start off by copying a political rant.

    However, I'ss see your political rant and raise you a day of enjoying some freedoms that the Founding Fathers may not have listed but still might have enjoyed. http://questionablecontent.net/ (Oh, by the way, highly NSFW. If you are offended by anything please do not click the link. You have been warned.)

    stay safe.

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    For any of my OCDO friends in the area, I am throwing an INFIDEL BBQ today. I will be seving some of our favorites. BACON Cheeseburgers, PORK Brats, PORK Hot Dogs, Pulled PORK, and then the usual fixins. But it won't be as good as Bad Bones BBQ, it will be a lot of INFIDEL food. If you are in the area, feel free to stop by, and as usual, on my property you can legally openly carry in a school zone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yooper View Post
    Just a suggestion, but I've refrained from using the "Happy 4th of July" thing, and exclusively use "Happy Independence Day". Seeing people on tv/internet that had not a clue why we celebrate the "4th of July" changed my mind.
    +1 here, good call!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Welcome to OCDO, where the newbies usually do not start off by copying a political rant.

    However, I'ss see your political rant and raise you a day of enjoying some freedoms that the Founding Fathers may not have listed but still might have enjoyed. http://questionablecontent.net/ (Oh, by the way, highly NSFW. If you are offended by anything please do not click the link. You have been warned.)

    stay safe.
    I'm guessing this was intended for me. I'm really sorry if you are offended or hurt by my rant. I apologise that I'm not capable of making it pretty and sugar coating just how really bad things are messed up, this didn't happen overnight. Yes we still do have some remnants of freedom left and the illusion of participation in how we want the government to operate. But don't be fooled, things truly are not what they may seem! I love this country with every fiber of my being as if i were born here if you have any doubts about where my heart is and sentiments lie. here is something to feast upon a little in the meantime my brother in LIBERTY!

    The United States Exists in Two Forms



    by Dion Wood on Monday, June 13, 2011 at 8:34pm





    The United States Exists in Two Forms
    • The United States Exists in Two Forms
    • Terminology
    • How the Constitution Was Usurped
    • James Trafficant Jr. Speech
    • How Can We Repair Our Country?

    The United States Exists in Two Forms
    1. The original United States that was in operation until 1860; a collection of sovereign Republics in the union. Under the original Constitution the States controlled the Federal Government; the Federal Government did not control the States and had very little authority.
    2. The original United States has been usurped by a separate and different UNITED STATES formed in 1871, which only controls the District of Columbia and it’s territories, and which is actually a corporation (the UNITED STATES CORPORATION) that acts as our current government. The United States Corporation operates under Corporate/Commercial/Public Law rather than Common/Private Law.
    The original Constitution was never removed; it has simply been dormant since 1871. It is still intact to this day. This fact was made clear by Supreme Court Justice Marshall Harlan (Downes v. Bidwell, 182, U.S. 244 1901) by giving the following dissenting opinion: “Two national governments exist; one to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions; the other to be maintained by Congress outside and Independently of that Instrument. ”
    The Restore America Plan reclaimed the De Jure institutions of government of the 50 State Republics in order to restore Common Law that represents the voice of the people and ends Corporate Law that ignores the voice of the people while operating under Maritime/Admiralty/International Law. This occurred when warrants were delivered to all 50 Governors on March 30, 2010.
    The rewritten Constitution of the UNITED STATES CORPORATION bypasses the original Constitution for the United States of America, which explains why our Congressmen and Senators don’t abide by it, and the President can write Executive Orders to do whatever he/she wants. They are following corporate laws that completely strip sovereigns of their God given unalienable rights. Corporate/Commercial/Public Law is not sovereign (private), as it is an agreement between two or more parties under contract. Common Law (which sovereigns operate under) is not Commercial Law; it is personal and private.

    Terminology
    To understand this document, you need to understand some basic terms. Visit www.usavsus.info for complete understanding. The basic terms are:
    De Jure – Existing by right or according to law; original, lawful. Common Law operates under De Jure terms.
    De Facto - In practice but not necessarily ordained by law; in fact, in reality. Corporate Law operates under De Facto terms.
    Sovereign – A real person. Sovereigns can own property while Citizens/Subjects cannot. According to the original Constitution, all government comes from the Sovereign Individual. Without the Sovereign Individual, there is no government.
    U.S. Citizen/Subject – A corporate fictitious entity that merely represents the real person. It acts as a “strawman.” [To call oneself a “sovereign citizen” or “sovereign subject” is an oxymoron, since “sovereign” and “citizen/subject” are mutually exclusive of each other.] When asked if you are a “U.S. Citizen” on corporate legal documents, if you check “yes,” you agree to the terms of Corporate Law and unknowingly relinquish your sovereign status and transfer all of your rights to the UNITED STATES CORPORATION since you are now under contract.
    Corporation – A non-human, fictitious entity. Corporate fictitious entities are denoted in all caps. This includes the names of Citizens/Subjects. Your fictitious “strawman” entity is addressed in all caps, i.e. JOHN SMITH, rather than John Smith.
    Common Law – God’s law. Common Law and the system of De Jure Juries apply to sovereigns in disputes. In Common Law, contracts must be entered into knowingly, voluntarily, and intentionally.
    Admiralty/Maritime Law/International Law – The King’s law. Deals with criminal acts that only apply to international contracts. Under this law, the people are no longer sovereign. The Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) that the United States practices is based on Admiralty Law. Under the UCC, contracts do not have to be entered into knowingly. Simple agreements can be binding, and as long as you exercise the benefits of that "agreement," you must meet the obligations associated with those benefits. If you accept the benefit offered by the government, then you MUST follow, to the letter,
    each and every statute involved with that benefit. That “benefit” is the Federal Reserve Notes (U.S. dollars). By paying for things with U.S. dollars you are unknowingly giving up all of your Constitutional rights and are legally obligated to follow all of the UCC statues. But you were NEVER told this.
    Lawful – A term used in Common Law.
    Legal – A term used in the UCC which applies to Corporate Law.

    HOW THE CONSTITUTION WAS USURPED BY THE CORPORATION
    (note by Panama Legal: These are the basic premises adhered to by the people in the movement and the people in the Sovereign movement. The Government is a Corporation actually functioning as the Federal Government. Thus it does not have to follow the constitution. Also it does not matter if Obama is not a natural born citizen since it is a corporation he is the head of. The corporation gets the permission of the people to reign over them by deceit. This is done by wording in the Birth Certificates, Social Security Cards, driving Licenses, IRS forms, Marriage Licenses and other documents. They always refer to the “person” in all capital letters. This means the name represents a corporate entity. This is how the corporation courts get jurisdiction over you. Their courts do not fly the “reaL” American flag. They use the military or admiralty flag. For a discourse on this try this website: http://www.usavsus.info/

    What the theory is goes like this. When you enter a US Courtroom there is a military or admiralty flag flying. The US Military does not have the protection of the constitution, neither does this apply to admiralty laws with ships at sea. When you enter a court room and cross through that little wooden gate they have and go to the area where the plaintiff (prosecutor) and defendant sit along with judge, court reporter, you are entering a “ship” or a foreign country as evidenced by the admiralty or military flag flying thus the constitution has no applicability and you are under equity law not common law. The flaw with their scheme is that there is no full disclosure to the people about any of this. This is brief over simplified synopsis of the scam run by the federal corporation. End of our comment.)
    In 1788 (January 1), The United States was officially bankrupt.
    In 1790 (August 4), Article One of the U.S. Statutes at Large, pages 138-178, abolished the States of the Republic and created Federal Districts. In the same year, the former States of the Republic reorganized as Corporations and their legislatures wrote new State Constitutions, absent defined boundaries, which they presented to the people of each state for a vote...the new State Constitutions fraudulently made the people “Citizens” of the new Corporate States. A Citizen is also defined as a “corporate fiction."
    In 1845, Congress passed legislation that would ultimately allow Common Law to be usurped by Admiralty Law. www.barefootsworld.net/admiralty.html explains this change. The yellow fringe placed at the bottom of court flags shows this is still true. Before 1845, Americans were considered sovereign individuals who governed themselves under Common Law.
    In 1860 – Congress was adjourned Sine Die – Lincoln could not legally reconvene Congress.
    In 1861, President Lincoln declared a National Emergency and Martial Law, which gave the President unprecedented powers and removed it from the other branches. This has NEVER been reversed.
    In 1863, the Lieber Code was established taking away your property and your rights.
    From 1864-1867, Several Reconstruction Acts were passed forcing the states to ratify the 14th Amendment, which made everyone slaves.
    In 1865, the capital was moved to Washington, D.C., a separate country – not a part of the United States of America.
    In 1871, The United States became a Corporation with a new constitution and a new corporate government, and the original constitutional government was vacated to become dormant, but it was never terminated. The new constitution had to be ratified by the people according to the original constitution, but it never was. The whole process occurred behind closed doors. The people are the source of financing for this new government.
    In 1917, the Trading with the Enemy Act (TWEA) was passed. This insightful video from [link to movielocker.com/4084)] states the following: “This act was implemented to deal with the countries we were at war with during World War I. It gave the President and the Alien Property Custodian the right to seize the assets of the people included in this act and if they wanted to do business in this country they could apply for a license to do so. By 1921, the Federal Reserve Bank (the trustee for the Alien Property Custodian) held over $700,000,000 in trust.” Understand that this trust was based on our assets, not theirs.
    In 1933, 48 Stat 1, of the TWEA was amended to include the United States Person because they wanted to take our gold away. Executive Order 6102 was created to make it illegal for a U.S. Citizen to own gold. In order for the Government to take our gold away and violate our Constitutional rights, we were reclassified as ENEMY COMBATANTS.”
    In 1933, there was a second United States bankruptcy. In the first bankruptcy the United States collateralized all public lands. In the 1933 bankruptcy, the U.S. government collateralized the private lands of the people (a lien) – they borrowed money against our private lands. They were then mortgaged. That is why we pay property taxes.

    From a speech in Congress in The Bankruptcy of the United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993, Vol. 33, page H-1303, Speaker Representative James Trafficant Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House states:
    "...It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.
    The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: “The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States...
    Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens of mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913) “Hypothecated” all property within the Federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. Citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a “beneficiary” of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the Federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets, and labor of their “subjects,” the 14th Amendment U.S. Citizen to the Federal Reserve System. In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States Corporation all of the credit “money substitute” it needed.
    Like any debtor, the Federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the Federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their “economic slaves,” the U.S. Citizens, as collateral against the federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks, forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.
    Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the People have exchanged one master for another."
    In 1944, Washington D.C. was deeded to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) by the Breton Woods Agreement. The IMF is made up of wealthy people that own most of the banking industries of the world. It is an organized group of bankers that have taken control of most governments of the world so the bankers run the world. Congress, the IRS, and the President work for the IMF. The IRS is not a U.S. government agency. It is an agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)

    HOW CAN WE REPAIR OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW?
    “The Supreme Court has said the De Jure Government offices still exist but the people have failed to occupy them.
    Remember Downs v. Bidwell and the dissenting opinion of Justice Marshall Harlan? He said that two national governments exist; one to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions. This is one that We the people need to force our elected public officials to occupy – De Jure rule.
    We need to change that by organizing Grand Juries and putting our officials back under De jure rule and out of the Corporate (or Military) Rule that they are currently operating under.
    Our elected officials will then have to operate under the limits of their Oath of office to uphold the U.S. and State Constitutions, circa 1860. When they violate the Oath it’s a capital crime.
    The reason we go back to 1860 is because that is the last time we had lawful laws in this country.
    Where do the people get their power to convene a Grand Jury? The Magna Carta, 1215.
    Our Founding Fathers looked back to history for precedent when they decided they wanted to change their government. What they found was the Magna Carta Liberatum, the Great Charter of Freedoms. It set a precedent that changed the face of England forever, by establishing that the King was not above the law.
    King John of England signed the Magna Carta after immense pressure from the Church and his barons (the people). The King often lived above the law, violating both Feudal and Common Law, and was heavily criticized for his foreign policy and actions in England. The Barons, with the support of the Church, pressured King John to spell out a list of their rights and guarantee that those rights would be enforced. The Barons provided a draft, and after some negotiation, King John put his seal to the Magna Carta in Runnymede, in June of 1215.
    Section 61 set rules for establishing the Grand Jury. It states: Since we have granted all these things for God, for the better ordering of our kingdom, and to allay the discord that has arisen between us and our barons (people), and since we desire that they shall be enjoyed in their entirety, with lasting strength, forever, we give and grant to the barons the following security: The barons shall elect twenty-five of their number to keep, and cause to be observed with all their might, the peace and liberties granted and confirmed to them by this charter. If we, our chief justice, our officials, or any of our servants offend in any respect against any man, or transgress any of the articles of the peace or of this security, and the offense is made known to four of the said twenty-five barons, they shall come to us.”








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    I'm guessing this was intended for me. I'm really sorry if you are offended or hurt by my rant. I apologise that I'm not capable of making it pretty and sugar coating just how really bad things are messed up, this didn't happen overnight. Yes we still do have some remnants of freedom left and the illusion of participation in how we want the government to operate. But don't be fooled, things truly are not what they may seem! I love this country with every fiber of my being as if i were born here if you have any doubts about where my heart is and sentiments lie. here is something to feast upon a little in the meantime my brother in LIBERTY!

    The United States Exists in Two Forms



    by Dion Wood on Monday, June 13, 2011 at 8:34pm








    The United States Exists in Two Forms
    • The United States Exists in Two Forms
    • Terminology
    • How the Constitution Was Usurped
    • James Trafficant Jr. Speech
    • How Can We Repair Our Country?
    The United States Exists in Two Forms
    1. The original United States that was in operation until 1860; a collection of sovereign Republics in the union. Under the original Constitution the States controlled the Federal Government; the Federal Government did not control the States and had very little authority.
    2. The original United States has been usurped by a separate and different UNITED STATES formed in 1871, which only controls the District of Columbia and it’s territories, and which is actually a corporation (the UNITED STATES CORPORATION) that acts as our current government. The United States Corporation operates under Corporate/Commercial/Public Law rather than Common/Private Law.
    The original Constitution was never removed; it has simply been dormant since 1871. It is still intact to this day. This fact was made clear by Supreme Court Justice Marshall Harlan (Downes v. Bidwell, 182, U.S. 244 1901) by giving the following dissenting opinion: “Two national governments exist; one to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions; the other to be maintained by Congress outside and Independently of that Instrument. ”
    The Restore America Plan reclaimed the De Jure institutions of government of the 50 State Republics in order to restore Common Law that represents the voice of the people and ends Corporate Law that ignores the voice of the people while operating under Maritime/Admiralty/International Law. This occurred when warrants were delivered to all 50 Governors on March 30, 2010.
    The rewritten Constitution of the UNITED STATES CORPORATION bypasses the original Constitution for the United States of America, which explains why our Congressmen and Senators don’t abide by it, and the President can write Executive Orders to do whatever he/she wants. They are following corporate laws that completely strip sovereigns of their God given unalienable rights. Corporate/Commercial/Public Law is not sovereign (private), as it is an agreement between two or more parties under contract. Common Law (which sovereigns operate under) is not Commercial Law; it is personal and private.

    Terminology
    To understand this document, you need to understand some basic terms. Visit www.usavsus.info for complete understanding. The basic terms are:
    De Jure – Existing by right or according to law; original, lawful. Common Law operates under De Jure terms.
    De Facto - In practice but not necessarily ordained by law; in fact, in reality. Corporate Law operates under De Facto terms.
    Sovereign – A real person. Sovereigns can own property while Citizens/Subjects cannot. According to the original Constitution, all government comes from the Sovereign Individual. Without the Sovereign Individual, there is no government.
    U.S. Citizen/Subject – A corporate fictitious entity that merely represents the real person. It acts as a “strawman.” [To call oneself a “sovereign citizen” or “sovereign subject” is an oxymoron, since “sovereign” and “citizen/subject” are mutually exclusive of each other.] When asked if you are a “U.S. Citizen” on corporate legal documents, if you check “yes,” you agree to the terms of Corporate Law and unknowingly relinquish your sovereign status and transfer all of your rights to the UNITED STATES CORPORATION since you are now under contract.
    Corporation – A non-human, fictitious entity. Corporate fictitious entities are denoted in all caps. This includes the names of Citizens/Subjects. Your fictitious “strawman” entity is addressed in all caps, i.e. JOHN SMITH, rather than John Smith.
    Common Law – God’s law. Common Law and the system of De Jure Juries apply to sovereigns in disputes. In Common Law, contracts must be entered into knowingly, voluntarily, and intentionally.
    Admiralty/Maritime Law/International Law – The King’s law. Deals with criminal acts that only apply to international contracts. Under this law, the people are no longer sovereign. The Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) that the United States practices is based on Admiralty Law. Under the UCC, contracts do not have to be entered into knowingly. Simple agreements can be binding, and as long as you exercise the benefits of that "agreement," you must meet the obligations associated with those benefits. If you accept the benefit offered by the government, then you MUST follow, to the letter,
    each and every statute involved with that benefit. That “benefit” is the Federal Reserve Notes (U.S. dollars). By paying for things with U.S. dollars you are unknowingly giving up all of your Constitutional rights and are legally obligated to follow all of the UCC statues. But you were NEVER told this.
    Lawful – A term used in Common Law.
    Legal – A term used in the UCC which applies to Corporate Law.

    HOW THE CONSTITUTION WAS USURPED BY THE CORPORATION
    (note by Panama Legal: These are the basic premises adhered to by the people in the movement and the people in the Sovereign movement. The Government is a Corporation actually functioning as the Federal Government. Thus it does not have to follow the constitution. Also it does not matter if Obama is not a natural born citizen since it is a corporation he is the head of. The corporation gets the permission of the people to reign over them by deceit. This is done by wording in the Birth Certificates, Social Security Cards, driving Licenses, IRS forms, Marriage Licenses and other documents. They always refer to the “person” in all capital letters. This means the name represents a corporate entity. This is how the corporation courts get jurisdiction over you. Their courts do not fly the “reaL” American flag. They use the military or admiralty flag. For a discourse on this try this website: http://www.usavsus.info/

    What the theory is goes like this. When you enter a US Courtroom there is a military or admiralty flag flying. The US Military does not have the protection of the constitution, neither does this apply to admiralty laws with ships at sea. When you enter a court room and cross through that little wooden gate they have and go to the area where the plaintiff (prosecutor) and defendant sit along with judge, court reporter, you are entering a “ship” or a foreign country as evidenced by the admiralty or military flag flying thus the constitution has no applicability and you are under equity law not common law. The flaw with their scheme is that there is no full disclosure to the people about any of this. This is brief over simplified synopsis of the scam run by the federal corporation. End of our comment.)
    In 1788 (January 1), The United States was officially bankrupt.
    In 1790 (August 4), Article One of the U.S. Statutes at Large, pages 138-178, abolished the States of the Republic and created Federal Districts. In the same year, the former States of the Republic reorganized as Corporations and their legislatures wrote new State Constitutions, absent defined boundaries, which they presented to the people of each state for a vote...the new State Constitutions fraudulently made the people “Citizens” of the new Corporate States. A Citizen is also defined as a “corporate fiction."
    In 1845, Congress passed legislation that would ultimately allow Common Law to be usurped by Admiralty Law. www.barefootsworld.net/admiralty.html explains this change. The yellow fringe placed at the bottom of court flags shows this is still true. Before 1845, Americans were considered sovereign individuals who governed themselves under Common Law.
    In 1860 – Congress was adjourned Sine Die – Lincoln could not legally reconvene Congress.
    In 1861, President Lincoln declared a National Emergency and Martial Law, which gave the President unprecedented powers and removed it from the other branches. This has NEVER been reversed.
    In 1863, the Lieber Code was established taking away your property and your rights.
    From 1864-1867, Several Reconstruction Acts were passed forcing the states to ratify the 14th Amendment, which made everyone slaves.
    In 1865, the capital was moved to Washington, D.C., a separate country – not a part of the United States of America.
    In 1871, The United States became a Corporation with a new constitution and a new corporate government, and the original constitutional government was vacated to become dormant, but it was never terminated. The new constitution had to be ratified by the people according to the original constitution, but it never was. The whole process occurred behind closed doors. The people are the source of financing for this new government.
    In 1917, the Trading with the Enemy Act (TWEA) was passed. This insightful video from [link to movielocker.com/4084)] states the following: “This act was implemented to deal with the countries we were at war with during World War I. It gave the President and the Alien Property Custodian the right to seize the assets of the people included in this act and if they wanted to do business in this country they could apply for a license to do so. By 1921, the Federal Reserve Bank (the trustee for the Alien Property Custodian) held over $700,000,000 in trust.” Understand that this trust was based on our assets, not theirs.
    In 1933, 48 Stat 1, of the TWEA was amended to include the United States Person because they wanted to take our gold away. Executive Order 6102 was created to make it illegal for a U.S. Citizen to own gold. In order for the Government to take our gold away and violate our Constitutional rights, we were reclassified as ENEMY COMBATANTS.”
    In 1933, there was a second United States bankruptcy. In the first bankruptcy the United States collateralized all public lands. In the 1933 bankruptcy, the U.S. government collateralized the private lands of the people (a lien) – they borrowed money against our private lands. They were then mortgaged. That is why we pay property taxes.

    From a speech in Congress in The Bankruptcy of the United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993, Vol. 33, page H-1303, Speaker Representative James Trafficant Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House states:
    "...It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.
    The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: “The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States...
    Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens of mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913) “Hypothecated” all property within the Federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. Citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a “beneficiary” of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the Federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets, and labor of their “subjects,” the 14th Amendment U.S. Citizen to the Federal Reserve System. In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States Corporation all of the credit “money substitute” it needed.
    Like any debtor, the Federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the Federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their “economic slaves,” the U.S. Citizens, as collateral against the federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks, forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.
    Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the People have exchanged one master for another."
    In 1944, Washington D.C. was deeded to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) by the Breton Woods Agreement. The IMF is made up of wealthy people that own most of the banking industries of the world. It is an organized group of bankers that have taken control of most governments of the world so the bankers run the world. Congress, the IRS, and the President work for the IMF. The IRS is not a U.S. government agency. It is an agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)

    HOW CAN WE REPAIR OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW?
    “The Supreme Court has said the De Jure Government offices still exist but the people have failed to occupy them.
    Remember Downs v. Bidwell and the dissenting opinion of Justice Marshall Harlan? He said that two national governments exist; one to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions. This is one that We the people need to force our elected public officials to occupy – De Jure rule.
    We need to change that by organizing Grand Juries and putting our officials back under De jure rule and out of the Corporate (or Military) Rule that they are currently operating under.
    Our elected officials will then have to operate under the limits of their Oath of office to uphold the U.S. and State Constitutions, circa 1860. When they violate the Oath it’s a capital crime.
    The reason we go back to 1860 is because that is the last time we had lawful laws in this country.
    Where do the people get their power to convene a Grand Jury? The Magna Carta, 1215.
    Our Founding Fathers looked back to history for precedent when they decided they wanted to change their government. What they found was the Magna Carta Liberatum, the Great Charter of Freedoms. It set a precedent that changed the face of England forever, by establishing that the King was not above the law.
    King John of England signed the Magna Carta after immense pressure from the Church and his barons (the people). The King often lived above the law, violating both Feudal and Common Law, and was heavily criticized for his foreign policy and actions in England. The Barons, with the support of the Church, pressured King John to spell out a list of their rights and guarantee that those rights would be enforced. The Barons provided a draft, and after some negotiation, King John put his seal to the Magna Carta in Runnymede, in June of 1215.
    Section 61 set rules for establishing the Grand Jury. It states: Since we have granted all these things for God, for the better ordering of our kingdom, and to allay the discord that has arisen between us and our barons (people), and since we desire that they shall be enjoyed in their entirety, with lasting strength, forever, we give and grant to the barons the following security: The barons shall elect twenty-five of their number to keep, and cause to be observed with all their might, the peace and liberties granted and confirmed to them by this charter. If we, our chief justice, our officials, or any of our servants offend in any respect against any man, or transgress any of the articles of the peace or of this security, and the offense is made known to four of the said twenty-five barons, they shall come to us.”








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    Sorry...but I like my National holidays with brats & dogs(no ketchup); rather than dogma & propaganda.

    Happy Independence Day;
    Act like it...Carry On!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewZealandAmerican View Post
    HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!


    What do we really have to celebrate? It almost feels like all those who have paid the ultimate price for FREEDOM, for LIFE, LIBERTY & PROPERTY have done so in vain, It is so frustrating what things have amounted to in 2011 and it didn't happen suddenly, It's been a gradual process even as far back as 1871, the erosion of our freedom & liberty, the systematic brainwashing, programming & dumbing down of we the masses into a thoughtless stupor of apathy, celebrity worship, the pursuit of material junk, the loss of morals and values, the destruction of families by the elites who want to own you, your heart mind soul and property! WAKE UP from your amnesia AMERICA before you find yourself a slave on this global plantation! The magnitude of how bad things really are with the grave threats to your LIFE, LIBERTY, PROPERTY and UN-ALIENABLE RIGHTS are far beyond what you may imagine! We still have a small window of opportunity to take back what is ours from the big corporations and their representatives in Congress, the international wanker bankers, the psycopathic elites, house of Rothchild and all of their ilk.

    God Bless to all of you and your family and friends today in all earnestness!!! PLEASE watch this short 9min video "The Philosophy of Liberty" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei0ch-y7r5c

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    The Foreclosure of America by Michael Badnarik

    http://www.constitutionpreservation....losure-america


    As you are painfully aware, life in the United States is changing. Not the hope and change promised in the 2008 election process, but the kind of change where you watch the American economy collapse before your eyes... helpless to do anything about it. The number of banks and financial institutions that have failed recently is dwarfed by the number of people who are worried about, or currently being threatened with, foreclosure on their homes.

    As bad as that may be, that is not the foreclosure I am referring to in the title of this article. The rest of the world will soon be foreclosing on the totality of the United States. And while it may be impractical to evict three hundred million people from the middle of the North American continent, it is clear that life as we knew it will never be the same. Hell. We already have millions of people here who are sharing our space, but not sharing the rent, so to speak. Furthermore, as bad as things are today, I can almost guarantee that twelve months from now you'll be wishing things could be as good as they are right now. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think I would look back on a Bill Clinton presidency with some fondness.

    The cause of all the pain and suffering we are and will be experiencing is due to our forfeiture of American values. As a people, we have failed to uphold the ideal and principle that made this country great. Namely - INDEPENDENCE. That's why Monday is important to me. Because it's Independence Day, not because it's the fourth day of July. Not because there will be parades and picnics and frisbees and fireworks. All of those things are symbols of celebration, however we have nothing to celebrate. We have lost our own Liberty because we failed in our responsibility to defend the Liberty of others. This process has been happening since before the War of Northern Aggression. In 1841, Fredrick Douglass, a black leader of the abolitionist movement, was asked to speak at a large Independence Day celebration. Here is a short excerpt from his speech.
    I say it with a sad sense of the disparity between us. I am not included within the pale of this glorious anniversary! Your high independence only reveals the immeasurable distance between us. The blessings in which you, this day, rejoice are not enjoyed in common. The rich inheritance of justice, liberty, prosperity, and independence bequeathed by your fathers is shared by you, not by me. The sunlight that brought light and healing to you has brought stripes and death to me. This Fourth of July is yours, not mine. You may rejoice, I must mourn. To drag a man in fetters into the grand illuminated temple of liberty, and call upon him to join you in joyous anthems, were inhuman mockery and sacrilegious irony. Do you mean, citizens, to mock me by asking me to speak today? If so, there is a parallel to your conduct. And let me warn that it is dangerous to copy the example of nation whose crimes, towering up to heaven, were thrown down by the breath of the Almighty, burying that nation in irrevocable ruin! I can today take up the plaintive lament of a peeled and woe-smitten people.
    We have become the largest welfare/warfare country in the world, spending unconscionable amounts of money on unconstitutional wars and foreign aid. Americans prefer to let the government take responsibility for their retirement, health care, financial stability, national security, and their children's education. Needless to say, the government has failed miserably on each of these projects, but we continue to vote the same corrupt politicians into office over and over again. Not all, but most Americans are unwilling to pay the price of freedom, and some are too afraid to even ask the price. (To find the answer, watch this two minute video, but be prepared for "sticker shock".)

    Instead of following the crowd this year, and pretending that we have successfully carried the torch of Liberty handed down to us by the Founding Fathers, join with me in bringing attention to the elephant (and donkey) in the room that everyone is carefully ignoring. Instead of wearing Red, White, and Blue this year, I invite you to wear black. The purpose is to draw attention to our many problems, and give us the motivation we need to talk about them - and perhaps even the courage we need to overcome them. There is a Facebook page that gives slightly more information in you're interested.

    You should know that I am changing my signature closing. In the past I have ended newsletters and and eMail messages with:
    Lighting the fires of Liberty, one heart at a time!
    From now on I will remind you that
    When I die, Liberty is no longer my problem.

    I wish you and your family a safe and somber holiday.

    Michael Badnarik
    While I agree with your position 100% & all those on here know I am a Pro Founding father, anti Gobernment purist Constitutional Revolutionary, this Thread regarding the CELEBRATION OF THE Declaration of Independence & the 4th of July celebration IS not the place for a rant of any type ! Take your Rants back to your own state, they need you there more than we do here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurchiron View Post
    Sorry...but I like my National holidays with brats & dogs(no ketchup); rather than dogma & propaganda.

    Happy Independence Day;
    Act like it...Carry On!!!
    Ahh don't worry my friend Lurchiron, go back to sleep, all is well, enjoy your delicious brats and dogs each holiday. Your government loves you and will take care of you and keep you all nice and safe. Don't worry about my meaningless propaganda, dogma and lies!Everyday should be a holiday. All is well in America!!!! Yay!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock34 View Post
    While I agree with your position 100% & all those on here know I am a Pro Founding father, anti Gobernment purist Constitutional Revolutionary, this Thread regarding the CELEBRATION OF THE Declaration of Independence & the 4th of July celebration IS not the place for a rant of any type ! Take your Rants back to your own state, they need you there more than we do here.
    Rant you say? Not the right place, i differ, this thread is spot on for being the right place! I think what i post, poses a very legitimate question on the topic of this thread. No amount of protest from you no matter how often repeated will change that. And if your feelings dictate to you that you feel a compelling need to tell me to get of of your state's forum, that i'm not welcome here, well then too bad, tough bananas mate, I'm gonna post in Wisconsin from time to time whether you like it or not. I like this forum and i feel welcome here as there are many very cool people here who do a lot for freedom and some good things I have learned from some of them just by reading different posts, I wish I could sincerely express that same sentiment about you, but you make it difficult for me to want to. There is no such thing as extremism in the defense of Liberty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewZealandAmerican View Post
    Rant you say? Not the right place, i differ, this thread is spot on for being the right place! I think what i post, poses a very legitimate question on the topic of this thread. No amount of protest from you no matter how often repeated will change that. And if your feelings dictate to you that you feel a compelling need to tell me to get of of your state's forum, that i'm not welcome here, well then too bad, tough bananas mate, I'm gonna post in Wisconsin from time to time whether you like it or not. I like this forum and i feel welcome here as there are many very cool people here who do a lot for freedom and some good things I have learned from some of them just by reading different posts, I wish I could sincerely express that same sentiment about you, but you make it difficult for me to want to. There is no such thing as extremism in the defense of Liberty!
    Ever hear of DECAF ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurchiron View Post
    Ever hear of DECAF ???

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    Lurchiron, perhaps you should stick to watching TV, maybe watch Dancing With The Stars! From what i read of you, you have no care or concern to find out about the truth of all threats to our freedom and liberty! Not even showing the desire to do your own research on it yourself to verify these things. Most people would commonly refer to your kind of response to me as "apathy". What I don't get is both you and i are here on a website that focuses on a portion of liberty and freedom yet it would seem your responses to me implies i am an opposite or enemy of you instead of being united for the same cause. Fascinating this is to me yet perplexing too. The pictures I posted here are not intended to be directed at you personally, but rather to illustrate the condition i refered to above called apathy. Surely you aren't really like that I hope. Like i said just because i said you appear or respond a certain way does not nescessarily make it so. Maybe you can prove that to me, who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewZealandAmerican View Post
    Lurchiron, perhaps you should stick to watching TV, maybe watch Dancing With The Stars! From what i read of you, you have no care or concern to find out about the truth of all threats to our freedom and liberty! Not even showing the desire to do your own research on it yourself to verify these things. Most people would commonly refer to your kind of response to me as "apathy". What I don't get is both you and i are here on a website that focuses on a portion of liberty and freedom yet it would seem your responses to me implies i am an opposite or enemy of you instead of being united for the same cause. Fascinating this is to me yet perplexing too. The pictures I posted here are not intended to be directed at you personally, but rather to illustrate the condition i refered to above called apathy. Surely you aren't really like that I hope. Like i said just because i said you appear or respond a certain way does not nescessarily make it so. Maybe you can prove that to me, who knows?
    I don't know...seems to me, that you are the bandwidth hog; see you on Labor Day .

    Fascinating to me, is that you're so easily perplexed...Oops
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurchiron View Post
    I don't know...seems to me, that you are the bandwidth hog; see you on Labor Day .

    Fascinating to me, is that you're so easily perplexed...Oops
    Get out of here. Seems like you enjoy being contentious, more than you care about freedom or being supportive. How is it that if it's obvious to you that i love freedom and the right to carry that you feel it's productive for the cause to dis me? I'm not sure why your psyche causes your behavior. Please, don't be a wanker.
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