Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Concealed / open carry while hunting? OK?

  1. #1
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    wi
    Posts
    112

    Concealed / open carry while hunting? OK?

    Anything definitive in this area?

  2. #2
    Founder's Club Member protias's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    SE, WI
    Posts
    7,318
    I believe if the handgun is under 5" you are ok. We talked about this briefly at Lizzy's on Friday, but I am not a hunter, so don't take my word as gospel on this one.
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

  3. #3
    Regular Member hermannr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Okanogan Highland
    Posts
    2,332
    Could you Open carry a pistol for self defence while hunting before? That would be your biggest clue.

    If so, it would be the same as here in WA...you can CC (with a permit, even though while recreating here you do not need a permit to cc) or OC while hunting, if it is for personal protection.

    You cannot use that carry weapon to dispatch injured game in archery or black powder season, but you can use it on game during modern firearms season if it is .25 cal or larger. (assuming you have a hunting license)

    If you are not hunting, (during hunting season), but you are hiking etc, it is still legal to carry OC or CC as long as you do not shoot game animals with you carry weapon.

    Is there anything in you game regs different than that? It will be in the game regs, it is not in your new law.

  4. #4
    Regular Member davegran's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Cassville Area -Twelve Miles From Anything, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    1,565
    Here are the 2010 DNR regs for handgun deer hunting, the 2011 regs aren't published yet:
    Handguns:
    To be legal for deer, handguns must use center-fire cartridges of .22 caliber or
    larger and have a 5 inch minimum barrel, measured from the firing pin to the
    muzzle with the action closed.
    Dave
    45ACP-For when you care enough to send the very best-
    Fight for "Stand Your Ground " legislation!

    WI DA Gerald R. Fox:
    "These so-called 'public safety' laws only put decent law-abiding citizens at a dangerous disadvantage when it comes to their personal safety, and I for one am glad that this decades-long era of defective thinking on gun issues is over..."

    Remember: Don't make old People mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to piss us off.

  5. #5
    Founder's Club Member springfield 1911's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Racine, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    484
    Quote Originally Posted by davegran View Post
    Here are the 2010 DNR regs for handgun deer hunting, the 2011 regs aren't published yet:
    Yea , Thats why I don't hunt with my 1911 1/4 in. to short, but I do open carry it while hunting for personal protection( wolves, bears,and you can't climb a tree fast enough with a rifle)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJQ34JTqk0I

    In the ashes burns an ember of liberty, We are the fuel to ignite the ember into a flame of liberty.

    The embodiment of our founding fathers will not be found in one man , But in Many.

    ****** give it away ( Our rights ) prostitutes sell it (Mandated training).

  6. #6
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    North Central Wisconsin, ,
    Posts
    768

  7. #7
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Waukesha, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    721
    Like was said, the newest regs haven't been published yet. I don't know if the DNR has the authority to mandate that all handguns are carried openly. Given their past, they may try to do this anyways, but we'll see. There is a difference in being in possession of a handgun and hunting with a handgun. If you have a shotgun or rifle, a warden may reasonably assume you are hunting with that instead of your sidearm with too-short of a barrel.

  8. #8
    Regular Member davegran's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Cassville Area -Twelve Miles From Anything, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    1,565
    Quote Originally Posted by smithman View Post
    Like was said, the newest regs haven't been published yet. I don't know if the DNR has the authority to mandate that all handguns are carried openly. Given their past, they may try to do this anyways, but we'll see. There is a difference in being in possession of a handgun and hunting with a handgun. If you have a shotgun or rifle, a warden may reasonably assume you are hunting with that instead of your sidearm with too-short of a barrel.
    Would the AG's opinion carry any weight with the DNR or are they a law unto themselves?
    Dave
    45ACP-For when you care enough to send the very best-
    Fight for "Stand Your Ground " legislation!

    WI DA Gerald R. Fox:
    "These so-called 'public safety' laws only put decent law-abiding citizens at a dangerous disadvantage when it comes to their personal safety, and I for one am glad that this decades-long era of defective thinking on gun issues is over..."

    Remember: Don't make old People mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to piss us off.

  9. #9
    Regular Member Da Po-lock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Green Bay, WI
    Posts
    131

    Carry while hunting ~ HELL YEAH.......

    My wife and I ALWAYS carry the .40's while hunting (bow hunting especially) for personal protection and that aint gonna stop either no matter what the DNR says or wants.

    I talked to a wolf trapper last fall about wolf trapping danger signs we found posted in an area we hunt. He was from Rhinelander and works eor the USDA and he told me he was trapping a local pack, testing their DNA to see if they were dog/wolf mix and destroying them if they were. Apparently juvenile wolves breed with wild dogs and he told me they are highly aggressive.

    He also asked my if we saw any sign of mountain lions in the area and asked me to report anything we may find to him.

    Then there is the illegal pot growing in Florence county.

    We carry shotguns or rifles for hunting and handguns for protection.


    ...........Anit gonna get chewed up by any wolf or lion Po-lock
    Any one of you lily livered, flea bitten, bow legged varmints care to slap leather with me?

    A.S.N.F.
    A Son NEVER Forgets

  10. #10
    Regular Member Interceptor_Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Green Bay, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    2,839
    If you read NR10 and the Statutes in Chapter 29, you will see regulations/restrictions on firearms for hunting and you will see specific prohibitions of possession. You are not prohibited from possessing a handgun of any caliber or barrel length for defense while deer, bear, etc hunting with a rifle or a bow or while small game hunting with a rifle. You are not prohibited from hunting with a concealed firearm. You are not prohibited from hunting with a suppressed short barrel rifle.
    So long as you have 1 firearm or bow legal to hunt the game you are "hunting" you may have a second in your possession. It is legal because it is not prohibited.
    Last edited by Interceptor_Knight; 07-03-2011 at 11:52 AM.

  11. #11
    Regular Member Interceptor_Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Green Bay, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    2,839
    This is from the DNR FAQ on the web site... It echos what I have been saying.... You may carry any caliber or barrel length but may not use it to "hunt" if it is not in the proper configuration and you may not even use it for a "kill" shot (example is if you shot a deer with a bow and it is not dying fast enough for your comfort).
    http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/faq/weapons/Q2.htm

    Is it legal to carry a handgun while hunting with a bow or other weapon?
    It is legal to carry a handgun while you are hunting but make sure that you are not violating any local ordinances or state laws by carrying one (such as carrying a concealed weapon). You must be 18 years old to hunt with or possess a handgun. It is only legal to use a handgun for species that can be legally hunted with a handgun. A handgun cannot be used to kill a deer you first shot and wounded with your bow.
    Last edited by Interceptor_Knight; 07-03-2011 at 01:17 PM.

  12. #12
    Regular Member Interceptor_Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Green Bay, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    2,839
    Quote Originally Posted by davegran View Post
    Would the AG's opinion carry any weight with the DNR or are they a law unto themselves?
    State Statute trumps DNR Admin Code. I gave an example in the 24hour ban thread. Not even the DNR is crazy enough to attempt a battle with Concealed Carry at this point..... They have no reason to...

  13. #13
    Founder's Club Member protias's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    SE, WI
    Posts
    7,318
    Quote Originally Posted by Da Po-lock View Post
    Then there is the illegal pot growing in Florence county.
    As opposed to the legal pot?
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

  14. #14
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    wi
    Posts
    112
    Quote Originally Posted by Interceptor_Knight View Post
    State Statute trumps DNR Admin Code. I gave an example in the 24hour ban thread. Not even the DNR is crazy enough to attempt a battle with Concealed Carry at this point..... They have no reason to...
    I.K.

    Not to be pushy here, just askin'.

    You seem to have a good handle on all this with very thoughtful analysis.

    Would you be willing to write a detailed letter to the DNR to ask all these questions, and maybe get them to clarify some of the inconsistencies and questions? I don't know if the AG would respond, but maybe a copy to him as well.

    I you wanted to post a sample letter, you could get comments from folks here as well.

    Will ya, please, huh, will ya.

    ksks

  15. #15
    Regular Member Interceptor_Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Green Bay, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    2,839
    Quote Originally Posted by ksks View Post
    I.K.

    Not to be pushy here, just askin'.

    You seem to have a good handle on all this with very thoughtful analysis.

    Would you be willing to write a detailed letter to the DNR to ask all these questions, and maybe get them to clarify some of the inconsistencies and questions? I don't know if the AG would respond, but maybe a copy to him as well.

    I you wanted to post a sample letter, you could get comments from folks here as well.

    Will ya, please, huh, will ya.

    ksks
    PM Sent

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •