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    Coming to Virginia on Vacation!

    Once again, I will be visiting the state of Virginia in August. Specifically, the Williamsburg area, with trips planned to the beach(Virginia Beach) and probably Chesapeake to visit my cousin.

    I have a valid LTCF from Pennsylvania and also a CWP from Utah. Is there anything I need to be made aware of concerning my carry, both open and concealed, that would be different than what I am accustomed to here in Pa?

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    I would say we are pretty similar to PA and I doubt you will have any problems. Virginia has total pre-emption meaning localities can not make their own firearms ordinances.

    This website discusses OC:
    http://opencarry.org/va.html

    This website discusses CC and the places that firearms are prohibited:

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/virginia.pdf
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    From that I gather that it is no longer a requirement to OC in a place that serves alchohol? This has changed since my last visit, I believe.

    Are there any OC dinners or gatherings happening between August 5th through the 12th in the Hampton Roads area?

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    That is correct, you can CC or OC in places that serve alcohol, provided they don't have a sign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    That is correct, you can CC or OC in places that serve alcohol, provided they don't have a sign.
    CC in places that serve alcohol for on-premises consumption = no drinking. OC does not prohibit drinking - although just about everybody says it is not polite, not a good way to behave, does not show OCers in a good light, is not smart, and a few other thoughts generally saying don't do it.

    Remember that your permits do not get you out of the no carry in school GFZs prohibition. But since nobody seems to be able to find anybody who has been charged wth carrying in the GFZ you might put worrying that you will probably be breaking that law a mite low on your list of things to obcess about. No, I am not telling you to break the law. I'm just saying breaking that law might be less of a worry than, say, breaking the law about overtime parking.

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    You'll want to avoid the Mariners' Museum in Newport News while carrying.

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...55#post1570055
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    CC in places that serve alcohol for on-premises consumption = no drinking. OC does not prohibit drinking - although just about everybody says it is not polite, not a good way to behave, does not show OCers in a good light, is not smart, and a few other thoughts generally saying don't do it.
    What if one gun is open and the other is CC still applys or does the 1 gun prove your armed? I never could find anything on this, I would think it's still no drinking. I do not even want to drink OCing its bad, but just for the sake of argument.
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    If I follow you, due to the fact that one of your handguns is carried concealed you would be under the rules for concealed carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP101 View Post
    Once again, I will be visiting the state of Virginia in August. Specifically, the Williamsburg area, with trips planned to the beach(Virginia Beach) and probably Chesapeake to visit my cousin.

    I have a valid LTCF from Pennsylvania and also a CWP from Utah. Is there anything I need to be made aware of concerning my carry, both open and concealed, that would be different than what I am accustomed to here in Pa?
    You're from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and you refer to Virginia as a "state"?

    Williamsburg area, eh? Be sure to read the threads (stickies above) regarding Skidmark's adventures at the Scotland-Jamestown Ferry.
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    Yeah we are a Commonwealth but are one of the "50 states" so I don't get too worked up about that.

    What's that museum in NN that recently got a set and grudgingly admitted they were gun friendly? Virginia Military Museum or something like that?

    Also dig back a few years and see that Colonial Williamsburg can be quite an experience (+) when you OC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    Yeah we are a Commonwealth but are one of the "50 states" so I don't get too worked up about that. Question: How many Virginians does it take to change a lightbulb? Answer: All we know for sure is they will stand around forever talking about how good the old one was, how their ancestors that beat those phoney-baloney Pilgrims to the New Land by decades had to do without lightbulbs, and how wonderful it was without lightbulbs until those Yamn Dankees forced them to use them.

    What's that museum in NN that recently got a set and grudgingly admitted they were gun friendly? Virginia Military Museum or something like that? http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?87893-Mariners-Museum-in-Newport-News , as you darned well know, you sneaky person, you!

    Also dig back a few years and see that Colonial Williamsburg can be quite an experience (+) when you OC.
    [color=blue]Member Ed[color=blue] has a wonderful write-up of his visit to Colonial Williamsburg and his encounter with two of King George III's (jackbooted) troops. Well worth searching for it.

    BTW - if you get time, come to Richmond. They have the world's largest collection of Second Place trophies - well worth the drive down Monument Ave. to view. ducks and scurries for cover

    stay safe.
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    Thanks for all the tips, guys. Yeah I just assumed Virginia was a state. When I'm asked what state I'm from, I guess I have to say I'm not from any state because it's a commonwealth.

    I have no intention of drinking alcohol while OC'ing, so that won't be a problem.

    Is it taboo to OC around Williamsburg, specifically the strip where all the restaurants and fast food places are? I was OC in Taco-Bell and a Williamsburg PD Lt. looked right at me and my weapon and only gave me the guy nod and smiled, last time I was down.

    I'll try to look up the encounter you spoke of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocholsteroc View Post
    What if one gun is open and the other is CC still applys or does the 1 gun prove your armed? I never could find anything on this, I would think it's still no drinking. I do not even want to drink OCing its bad, but just for the sake of argument.
    If you are carrying a concealed handgun (any number of them) then consuming alcohol is prohibited. Just as if you were carrying a concealed handgun in your pocket, and open carrying another on your hip, you'd need a CHP to cover the one that is concealed.

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    Ummm. Why am I not seeing statutory cites for the statements of law in this thread?
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    Here's the cites. Guess we're all used to spouting off the rules. Might have missed one or two.

    General.

    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...0+cod+18.2-308

    Schools.

    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...cod+18.2-308.1

    Preemption.

    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...0+cod+15.2-915
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    Ummm. Why am I not seeing statutory cites for the statements of law in this thread?
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    Stating that a CHP is required to conceal a handgun isn't exactly an obscure or contested statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoom6zoom View Post
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    Stating that a CHP is required to conceal a handgun isn't exactly an obscure or contested statement.
    No, its not. But,

    1) the forum rule about cites is not limited to obscure or contested statements. And,

    2) some of the statements about the law in this thread were beyond the everybody-knows-already in your example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    2) some of the statements about the law in this thread were beyond the everybody-knows-already in your example.
    If someone's asking, then everybody-knows-already doesn't apply

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