SB93 is now 2011 Act 35

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/data/SB93hst.html

It has not been published, however.

has there been a date set when it will be published???
is there a date when it has to be published????

oliverclotheshoff said:

has there been a date set when it will be published???
is there a date when it has to be published????

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Not that I can find. It would have to be no more than 10 business days from 'approval' (governor signature) so no later than 7/22.

thanks paul

And Since Dougie is Pouting

paul@paul-fisher.com said:

Not that I can find. It would have to be no more than 10 business days from 'approval' (governor signature) so no later than 7/22.

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because he had a few of his meager duties taken away, expect the full delay to 7/22.

Functionally--

Changes to these statutory sections take effect on the day after publication (= July 23, 2011)

66.0409 (6) - Disorderly Conduct policy in local ordinances.
165.25 (12) - List of Recognized States by DoJ
175.49 (4) - Design of certification card for LEO’s by DoJ
175.60 (2m) - Design of License Document by DoJ (to be completed by the 1st day of the 2nd month = September 1, 2011)
175.60 (4) - Training Requirements
175.60 (5) - Design of Application Form (to be completed by the 1st day of the 2nd month = September 1, 2011) and Renewal Form (to be completed by the 1st day of the 36th month = July 1, 2014) by DoJ
947.01 (6) - Disorderly Conduct policy modification of state statute.

These two nonstatutory sections also take on that day:

Section 100 (1) - bureaucratic trivia
Section 100 (2) - DoJ to initially issue licenses ASAP receiving an application but no longer than 45 days. Could start as early as form is available or late as September 1st. The rest of the law, including 21 day processing starts November 1st.

People may want to consider beating the drums to get the application form completed. Not that DoJ would get the form out before the last possible day but to make sure that it is available September 1st. If it isn't done - who is going to enforce the statutory command? Perhaps selective communication with the AG by people in "leadership" positions could help keep the focus. A blizzard of e-mails by anybody with a passing interest is recommended against. Remember 45 days is the max. There is no reason that an application turned around on 9/1 can't result in an application in the mail 9/2. The AG issued a LEOSA-based permit three years ago. They apparently already have the means to fabricate the physical license.

apjonas said:

21 day processing starts November 1st.

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21 day processing starts December 1st.

(2) Notwithstanding section 175.60 (9) (b) of the statutes,
as created by this act, beginning on the effective date
of this subsection and ending on the first day of the 5th
month beginning after the effective date of this subsection,
the department of justice shall, as soon as practicable
and without delay, but no longer than 45 days, after
receiving a complete application under section 175.60

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Yet, once again paul,

on our six, Thank you. boar out

apjonas said:

because he had a few of his meager duties taken away, expect the full delay to 7/22.

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Maybe. The much more controversial budget bill was signed on a Sunday and published the following Tuesday... only took 2 days. There's nothing to be gained by waiting two weeks.

apjonas said:

because he had a few of his meager duties taken away, expect the full delay to 7/22.

Functionally--

Changes to these statutory sections take effect on the day after publication (= July 23, 2011)

66.0409 (6) - Disorderly Conduct policy in local ordinances.
165.25 (12) - List of Recognized States by DoJ
175.49 (4) - Design of certification card for LEO’s by DoJ
175.60 (2m) - Design of License Document by DoJ (to be completed by the 1st day of the 2nd month = September 1, 2011)
175.60 (4) - Training Requirements
175.60 (5) - Design of Application Form (to be completed by the 1st day of the 2nd month = September 1, 2011) and Renewal Form (to be completed by the 1st day of the 36th month = July 1, 2014) by DoJ
947.01 (6) - Disorderly Conduct policy modification of state statute.

These two nonstatutory sections also take on that day:

Section 100 (1) - bureaucratic trivia
Section 100 (2) - DoJ to initially issue licenses ASAP receiving an application but no longer than 45 days. Could start as early as form is available or late as September 1st. The rest of the law, including 21 day processing starts November 1st.

People may want to consider beating the drums to get the application form completed. Not that DoJ would get the form out before the last possible day but to make sure that it is available September 1st. If it isn't done - who is going to enforce the statutory command? Perhaps selective communication with the AG by people in "leadership" positions could help keep the focus. A blizzard of e-mails by anybody with a passing interest is recommended against. Remember 45 days is the max. There is no reason that an application turned around on 9/1 can't result in an application in the mail 9/2. The AG issued a LEOSA-based permit three years ago. They apparently already have the means to fabricate the physical license.

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my emphasis above


There is no statutory command in 175.60 (5) for the applications to be available on 9/1/11. If that was the legislative intent, it was not made clear. It may be possible that applications will be available on 9/1/11, but it was not mandated that they should be.

BROKENSPROKET said:

my emphasis above


There is no statutory command in 175.60 (5) for the applications to be available on 9/1/11. If that was the legislative intent, it was not made clear. It may be possible that applications will be available on 9/1/11, but it was not mandated that they should be.

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This is not meant as sarcastic as it sounds...but by that logic they don't ever have to make the form available. Not 9/1, not 11/1, not ever.

However, since on a period starting the day after the law is published and ending on Dec 1st they have 45 days to respond to an application, it is only logical to assume (though you're correct it's not guaranteed) the form will be available as soon as it's finished.

They just said it will be published 7/22. That means it takes effect 7/25 for all the 'day after' stuff.

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/proposals/sb93