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My resolution for the troll

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apjonas said:
But this thread inspired me to comment thusly:

Please remember that "troll" and its derivatives has (or at least at one time) had a specific meaning(s). Not every post that prompts an emotional reaction and certainly not every post that a person (or group) disagrees with qualifies. I always think an essential element is the goal of undermining the exchange of ideas or hurting someone. So to be fair, the exact same comment may or may not be trolling depending upon intent. I recall an anecdote from William F. Buckley that said something like "When you compare the man who pushes an old lady into the path of an oncoming bus and the man who pushes an old lady out of the path of an oncoming bus - the fact that both pushed an old lady is not the operative distinction." I have been the recipient of the casually flung troll label on many occasions, even if (1) I take great pains to explain my position and (2) nobody disputes that it is sincerely held. Too many times, expressing a thought that is in opposition, however slightly, with the party line (groupthink) is deemed good and sufficient reason to smear somebody with the trollbrush. The whys and wherefores of this phenomenon would be the stuff of a dissertation but it has much to do with wanting to belong to a group/acceptance. There have been a few times when people have communicated with me privately to say that their public denouncement wasn't their real feeling and/or they agreed with me - but fear ruled the day. Proclaiming Troll! can be no different than calling a person Nazi! or Racist! just because he doesn't support Obamacare or says something complimentary about Michele Bachmann. Often it is merely a tool to stifle legitimate debate. Just something to consider.
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Excellent post. MO
 
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I'm proud to say that I am an Ex-Troll. I served 18 months in the Gore/Liberman Institute for the Temporary Insane Internet Responders
(or GLITIIR)

It was a tough experience but I learned a lot ~ like how to use the Enter button, and not go off on some poster just because he/she has an "excessive" low post count.

What apjonas writes, comes right out of the first week (or indoctrination week as we called it) of GLITIIR reform and every word of it is true. It can change your life. :lol:

I am no longer afraid of differing opinion. I no longer look down upon the "FNGs". I no longer get upset when I read the most ridiculous and outlandish statements ever presented in written form. Hell, I even think it's OK to be from Illinois. (Not live there, just be from there)

I have seen the light. Troll no more.
 
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IcrewUH60 said:
I'm proud to say that I am an Ex-Troll. I served 18 months in the Gore/Liberman Institute for the Temporary Insane Internet Responders
(or GLITIIR)

It was a tough experience but I learned a lot ~ like how to use the Enter button, and not go off on some poster just because he/she has an "excessive" low post count.

What apjonas writes, comes right out of the first week (or indoctrination week as we called it) of GLITIIR reform and every word of it is true. It can change your life. :lol:

I am no longer afraid of differing opinion. I no longer look down upon the "FNGs". I no longer get upset when I read the most ridiculous and outlandish statements ever presented in written form. Hell, I even think it's OK to be from Illinois. (Not live there, just be from there)

I have seen the light. Troll no more.
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Icrew truly this is for you!
 
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McX said:
Icrew truly this is for you!
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now, you're just trying to undermine the integrity of this thread! I won't be fooled and "We" won't stand for it! I won't fall into your cheezburgerz pit of temptations. Back! Back to the bridge from whence you came!

[video=youtube;EXIbmosA4X4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXIbmosA4X4[/video]


there you have it:

Cheezeburgerz
Zombies
Missiles

all in one post!
 
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i...........i..............i confess i am a troll-burger, with a partiality for cheeseburger grips on 1911's.
 
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IcrewUH60 said:
I have seen the light. Troll no more.
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welcome_to_the_internet.jpg
 
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Left4Dead and now Monty Python? You may have opened a rift that we can never close.

[video=youtube;78b67l_yxUc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78b67l_yxUc[/video]
 
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Flipper said:
Don't turtles carry salmonella?. Hope the person holding the little feller/gal didn't lick their fingers immediately after.
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Ewww... Other than a child, I can't imagine anyone doing that.
On a somewhat related thought, when turtles grow, do the plates in their shells get larger, or do they add plates to the outside edge (or maybe the middle)?

apjonas said:
Too many times, expressing a thought that is in opposition, however slightly, with the party line (groupthink) is deemed good and sufficient reason to smear somebody with the trollbrush.
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This is true, but I really don't think it applies in the current instance.
Search for posts by the currently-active trollish poster & see if it's merely been "expressing a thought in opposition", or fighting for the sake of fighting & even provoking the less-than-welcoming responses it's gotten (& complained about).
I think the latter is a more accurate description.
 
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MKEgal said:
Ewww... Other than a child, I can't imagine anyone doing that.
On a somewhat related thought, when turtles grow, do the plates in their shells get larger, or do they add plates to the outside edge (or maybe the middle)?.
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there plates get bigger i have caught snappers with plates on there shells that were close 4 maybe 5 inches wide and that is on a snapper with a shell about 20 inch length (top of shell by the head to the bottom of the shell by its tail)
 
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MKEgal said:
Ewww... Other than a child, I can't imagine anyone doing that.
On a somewhat related thought, when turtles grow, do the plates in their shells get larger, or do they add plates to the outside edge (or maybe the middle)?


This is true, but I really don't think it applies in the current instance.
Search for posts by the currently-active trollish poster & see if it's merely been "expressing a thought in opposition", or fighting for the sake of fighting & even provoking the less-than-welcoming responses it's gotten (& complained about).
I think the latter is a more accurate description.
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oliverclotheshoff said:
there plates get bigger i have caught snappers with plates on there shells that were close 4 maybe 5 inches wide and that is on a snapper with a shell about 20 inch length (top of shell by the head to the bottom of the shell by its tail)
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Really? Turtles? On this thread of ALL threads. The one intended to find a resolution for the troll!?!?!?! Focus people :lol:
 
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IcrewUH60 said:
@ 0:34 "I sat next to a female snapper"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



I didnt make it past this.
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i like the very last comment at the end of the video snapping turtle are like shot guns if you dont have experience with them you shouprobably shouldnt play with them
 
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Point Well Taken

M-Taliesin said:
Howdy Amigo!
That's the most lucid and well thought out post I've read all day. The only addition I'd throw in along with calling somebody a Nazi, Racist and similar tripe to stifle legitimate debate is the branding of others as "libtard", "socialist", "Marxist", leftist and similar 'branding'. Some can't disagree without an emotional need to resort to name calling. All intended to stifle legitimate debate. Usually because somebody disagrees with the "party line" or group gestalt! You pointed out something elemental in the character of some folks who resort to that particular tactic when somebody else refused to march in lock-step to their particular paradigm.

Wow, your post blew me away this morning. Well said pardner! Well said!

Blessings,
M-Taliesin
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I have rarely been called any of those so they didn't come to mind but your addition is quite valid. Of course there are the exceptions. If you call Bernie Sanders a socialist, he is likely to respond, "Yep and damn proud of it!"
 
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MKEgal said:
Ewww... Other than a child, I can't imagine anyone doing that.
On a somewhat related thought, when turtles grow, do the plates in their shells get larger, or do they add plates to the outside edge (or maybe the middle)?
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Hi MKEgal, Their plates get bigger :D
 
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