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    We are the sheepdogs

    I believe we are the sheepdogs and will be needed more and more in our communities, I got this as an email, this is a great story long but great. Carry on sheepdogs!

    sheep, wolves, sheepdogs
    I got this in an email. I didn't snopes it, but the "letter" is very powerful. It kind of puts expresses in words how I (and I can only assume many of us) feel. It is pretty long, but definately worth it.

    This letter was written by, Charles Grennel and his comrades who are veterans of the Global War On Terror. Grennel is an Army Reservist who spent two years in Iraq and was a principal in putting together the first Iraqi elections January of 2005. It was written to Jill Edwards who is one of the students at the University of Washington who did not want to honor Medal of Honor winner USMC Colonel Greg Boyington because she does not think those who serve in the U.S. Armed services are good role models.

    To: Edwards, Jill (student, UW)
    Subject: Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs

    Miss Edwards, I read of your 'student activity' regarding the proposed memorial to Col Greg Boyington, USMC and a Medal of Honor winner. I suspect you will receive a bellyful of angry e-mails from conservative folks like me You may be too young to appreciate fully the sacrifices of generations of servicemen and servicewomen on whose shoulders you and your fellow students stand. I forgive you for the untutored ways of youth and your naiveté It may be that you are, simply, a sheep. There's no dishonor in being a sheep - - as long as you know and accept what you are.
    William J. Bennett, in a lecture to the United States Naval Academy November 24, 1997 said: 'Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident.'

    We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence is still remarkably rare. This is because most citizens are kind, decent people who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme provocation. They are sheep. Then there are the wolves and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy. Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial.

    Then there are sheepdogs and I'm a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf. If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen, a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath, a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? What do you have then? A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the unchartered path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.

    We know that the sheep live in denial, that is what makes them sheep. They do not want to believe that there is evil in the world. They can accept the fact that fires can happen, which is why they want fire extinguishers, fire sprinklers, fire alarms and fire exits throughout their kids' schools. But many of them are outraged at the idea of putting an armed police officer in their kid's school. Our chil dren are thousands of times more likely to be killed or seriously injured by school violence than fire, but the sheep's only response to the possibility of violence is denial. The idea of someone coming to kill or harm their child is just too hard, and so they chose the path of denial.
    The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep.
    Any sheep dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours. Still, the sheepdog disturbs the sheep. He is a constant reminder that there are wolves in the land. They would prefer that he didn't tell them where to go, or give them traffic tickets, or stand at the ready in our airports, in camouflage fatigues, holding an M-16. The sheep would much rather have the sheepdog cash in his fangs, spray paint himself white, and go, 'Baa.'

    Until the wolf shows up. Then the entire flock tries desperately to hide behind one lonely sheepdog.

    The students, the victims, at Columbine High School were big, tough high school students, and under ordinary circumstances they would not have had the time of day for a police officer. They were not bad kids; they just had nothing to say to a cop. When the school was under attack, however, and SWAT teams were clearing the rooms and hallways, the officers had to physically peel those clinging, sobbing kids off of them. This is how the little lambs feel about their sheepdog when the wolf is at the door.
    Look at what happened after September 11, 2001 when the wolf pounded hard on the door. Remember how America , more than ever before, felt differently about their law enforcement officers and military personnel? Understand that there is nothing morally superior about being a sheepdog; it is just what you choose to be. Also understand that a sheepdog is a funny critter: He is always sniffing around out on the perimeter, checking the breeze, barking at things that go bump in the night, and yearning for a righteous battle. That is, the young sheepdogs yearn for a righteous battle. The old sheepdogs are a little older and wiser, but they move to the sound of the guns when needed, right along with the young ones.

    Here is how the sheep and the sheepdog think differently. The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day. After the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America said, 'Thank God I wasn't on one of those planes.'
    The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, 'Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference.' You want to be able to make a difference. There is nothing morally superior about the sheepdog, the warrior, but he does have one real advantage. Only one. And that is that he is able to survive and thrive in an environment that destroys 98 percent of the population.

    There was research conducted a few years ago with individuals convicted of violent crimes. These cons were in prison for serious, predatory & nbsp;crimes of violence: assaults, murders and killing law enforcement officers. The vast majority said that they specifically targeted victims by body language: Slumped walk, passive behavior and lack of awareness.
    They chose their victims like big cats do in Africa , when they select one out of the herd that is least able to protect itself. Some people may be destined to be sheep and others might be genetically primed to be wolves or sheepdogs. But I believe that most people can choose which one they want to be, and I'm proud to say that more and more Americans are choosing to become sheepdogs.

    Seven months after the attack on September 11, 2001, Todd Beamer was honored in his hometown of Cranbury , New Jersey . Todd, as you recall, was the man on Flight 93 over Pennsylvania who called on his cell phone to alert an operator from United Airlines about the hijacking. When they learned of the other three passenger planes that had been used as weapons, Todd and the other passengers confronted the terrorist hijackers. In one hour, a transformation occurred among the passengers - athletes, business people and parents. -- from sheep to sheepdogs and together they fought the wolves, ultimately saving an unknown number of lives on the ground.
    There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. - Edmund Burke. Here is the point I like to emphasize, especially to the thousands of police officers and soldiers I speak to each year. In nature the sheep, real sheep, are born as sheep. Sheepdogs are born that way, and so are wolves. They didn't have a choice. But you are not a critter. As a human being, you can be whatever you want to be.

    It is a conscious, moral decision. If you want to be a sheep, then you can be a sheep and that is okay, but you must understand the price you pay. When the wolf comes, you and your loved ones are going to die if there is not a sheepdog there to protect you. If you want to be a wolf, you can be one, but the sheepdogs are going to hunt you down and you will never have rest, safety, trust or love. But if you want to be a sheepdog and walk the warrior's path, then you must make a conscious and moral decision every day to dedicate, equip and prepare yourself to thrive in that toxic, corrosive moment when the wolf comes knocking at the door.

    This business of being a sheep or a sheep dog is not a yes-no dichotomy. It is not an all-or-nothing, either-or choice. It is a matter of degrees, a continuum. On one end is an abject, head-in-the-sand-sheep and on the other end is the ultimate warrior. Few people exist completely on one end or the other. Most of us live somewhere in between. Since 9-11 almost everyone in America took a step up that continuum, away from denial. The sheep took a few steps toward accepting and appreciating their warriors, and the warriors started taking their job more seriously.

    Its ok to be a sheep, but do not kick the sheep dog. Indeed, the sheep dog may just run a little harder, strive to protect a little better and be fully prepared to pay an ultimate price in battle and spirit with the sheep moving from 'Bhaa' to 'thanks'. We do not call for gifts or freedoms beyond our lot. We just need a small pat on the head, a smile and a thank you to fill the emotional tank which is drained protecting the sheep. And when our number is called by 'The Almighty', and day retreats into night, a small prayer before the heavens just may be in order to say thanks for letting you continue to be a sheep. And be grateful for the thousands - - millions - - of American sheepdogs who permit you the freedom to express even bad ideas.

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    The following is a personal perspective... an opinion if you will...

    I am not a sheep for I do not mill around with the flock with my attention on fitting in with the flock.

    I am not a wolf for I do not prey on the sheep.

    I am not a sheepdog for I do not have the responsibility or desire to control or protect the sheep... nor do I have any wish to fight the wolf.

    The word "wolf" is an accurate term for predatory criminals so I have no problem with that term.

    I am a stray dog... I am warily friendly to the sheep and I avoid the wolf as I fend for myself yet I will fiercely fight to protect those I love... from both wolf and sheep.

    That said... I don't like using the word "sheep" because it is derogatory to people who need to be educated that they too can defend themselves from the "wolf".

    And the word "sheepdog" sounds so noble and nice... to be someone who protects the weak and innocent... but honestly look at what a "sheepdog" actually does with the "sheep" entrusted to it... it is the "sheepdogs" job to control the sheep in return for the illusion of the flock being protected while the dog's master does other, more important, things.

    My job is to maintain control of my own ability to protect myself and those I care about... and in order to do that I carry a gun. I might come to the aid of an innocent person because my morals and ethics require helping those in danger but carrying a gun does not make it my job to help others... therefor as a private citizen I am not now, never have been, and never will be a "sheepdog".
    Last edited by Bikenut; 07-13-2011 at 07:41 PM.
    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    i have to agree with bikenut. i do not feel like i am in any of those three categories.

    i am definitely not a sheep. when it comes to myself, my family or my friends i will defend them with every bit of my life.

    i am definitely not a sheepdog. my job is not to defend the weak. **** the weak. my job is to defend myself, my family, my friends and my property. but, my son needs a father and my wife needs a husband. if you are too much of a ***** to defend yourself, **** you.

    i am not a wolf either. i am not a criminal, i support my family legally, i mow my lawn, i get a haircut, i dress my son well... i want the suburban dream, not what you have.

    also, i think half the sheepdogs out there like to bite the sheep now and again. **** them too. they are not as great as you think.
    Last edited by ElectricianLU58; 07-13-2011 at 03:25 PM.

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    Bikenut, thank you for saying it much more eloquently than I ever could.

    Those who expect to reap the benefits of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. – Thomas Paine

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    If society is reduced into the analogy of a field, the sheepdogs are not the armed citizens. The sheepdogs are the police. They don't have to do the real protecting. All the sheepdogs do is run around and keep the sheep in line, and use their power to bite the sheep once in a while, as if it were some kind of game (a game that some enjoy way too much). They are empowered, trained, and instructed by the shepherd. The shepherd in this analogy reminds me of government. The sheep trade in their freedom for a little bit of security (provided by the shepherd and his sheepdogs), and in exchange, the shepherd shaves the coat right off your back (taxes).

    I like bikenut's stray dog analogy a lot better. It's not perfect, but it's a lot more accurate than a sheepdog. I'm not a sheepdog nor do I desire to be one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electricianlu58 View Post
    i have to agree with bikenut. I do not feel like i am in any of those three categories.

    I am definitely not a sheep. When it comes to myself, my family or my friends i will defend them with every bit of my life.

    I am definitely not a sheepdog. My job is not to defend the weak. **** the weak. My job is to defend myself, my family, my friends and my property. But, my son needs a father and my wife needs a husband. If you are too much of a ***** to defend yourself, **** you.

    I am not a wolf either. I am not a criminal, i support my family legally, i mow my lawn, i get a haircut, i dress my son well... I want the suburban dream, not what you have.

    Also, i think half the sheepdogs out there like to bite the sheep now and again. **** them too. They are not as great as you think.
    this! ^^^

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    Although some wrongly ascribe a sort of moral depravity to the sheepdog (biting the sheep), I deplore the attitude that says 'just me & mine' and to heck with the rest of the flock.

    An occasional nip lets the sheep know they're heading into dangerous territory, that they are unprepared to encounter.

    I'm proud to say I'm a sheepdog. I cannot abide a wolf under any circumstances. Not everyone can be anything BUT sheep. They do not have fangs; a warrior's heart.

    Never fear a noble death. We all must die some day; Lord, let mine count, I pray.
    'If the people are not ready for the exercise of the non-violence of the brave, they must be ready for the use of force in self defense. There should be no must never be secret.' MK Gandhi II-146 (Gandhi on Non-Violence)-- Gandhi supports open carry!

    'There is nothing more demoralizing than the fake non-violence of the weak and impotent.' MK Gandhi II-153 (Gandhi on Non-Violence)

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    I like the analogies, but Im with bear on this one. Im a sheepdog, sometimes it takes a sheepdog, (us) to bite back at a sheepdog that gets too far out of line, (LEO).

    My shepherd is Christ, the good shepherd, not the .gov, I just like to pee in thier yard.

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    I am MASTIFF, the name speaks for itself.

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