Jim Moran claims pro-gun activists promote "wholesale slaughter"

Repeater · Jul 13, 2011

House republicans today voted to strip funding for a new Obama administration policy that increases reporting requirements for some gun dealers who sell semi-automatic rifles.

Democrats vehemently opposed Rehberg’s measure, which was supported by the National Rifle Association (NRA). Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) said stripping the funding from the rule would be akin to “virtual wholesale slaughter.”

“The NRA is so afraid that the people who are really funding the NRA, the gun manufacturers, might lose some sales that we’re willing to sacrifice the lives of these people that are casualties of this gun war,” said Moran during the markup.

“And we’re promoting it. We’re enabling … that slaughter to continue,” Moran said.

thebigsd · Jul 13, 2011

What??? There is no wholesale slaughter now. Nothing was happening before these requirements. How can a lack of new reporting requirements create more nothing?

ocholsteroc · Jul 13, 2011

virtual wholesale slaughter

Are we going to do something about vehicles to? lots of drunk drivers out there. Maybe we should put a restriction on buying cars?...

JamesB · Jul 13, 2011

ocholsteroc said:
Are we going to do something about vehicles to? lots of drunk drivers out there. Maybe we should put a restriction on buying cars?...

Or at least when you buy more than one at a time.

Hell, I'm still waiting for the law that specifies all new cars must be equipped with a interlock device (breathalizer). I can already hear the sound bite, "We have to stop the sensless killing of our children by drunk drivers, and if inconvieniences the rest of us then it is a price we should all be willing to pay."

tcmech · Jul 13, 2011

JamesB said:
Or at least when you buy more than one at a time.

Hell, I'm still waiting for the law that specifies all new cars must be equipped with a interlock device (breathalizer). I can already hear the sound bite, "We have to stop the sensless killing of our children by drunk drivers, and if inconvieniences the rest of us then it is a price we should all be willing to pay."

That could be an end to the fourth amendment violations that happen every time a DUI checkpoint is set up.

JamesB · Jul 13, 2011

tcmech said:
That could be an end to the fourth amendment violations that happen every time a DUI checkpoint is set up.

But then we would need crack pipe checkpoints, underage checkpoints, visual acquity checkpoints, proper tire inflation checkpoints (ok, that one might be handy).

Repeater · Jul 14, 2011

Open Carry proximity to Moran?

Has anyone open carried near Moran, perhaps at a townhall meeting? If yes, what was his body language like? How did he treat you?

He seems very bigoted toward self-defense or self-reliance.

thebigsd · Jul 14, 2011

Repeater said:
Has anyone open carried near Moran, perhaps at a townhall meeting? If yes, what was his body language like? How did he treat you?

He seems very bigoted toward self-defense or self-reliance.

Better question, how did you keep your gun from jumping out of its holster and stop it from causing a "wholesale slaughter" all on it's own?...

CHILINVLN · Jul 14, 2011

tcmech said:
That could be an end to the fourth amendment violations that happen every time a DUI checkpoint is set up.

Explain how you think a DUI Checkpoint is a violation of the 4th Amendment.

zoom6zoom · Jul 14, 2011

I guess he hasn't been watching the news (which has been getting us furious, fast.)
If you really want to save money and lives, defund the ATF.

riverrat10k · Jul 15, 2011

“virtual wholesale slaughter.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

at least it is "virtual" not "actual" wholesale slaughter.

Oh, Jimmy, you say the cwaziest things!

Dutch Uncle · Jul 15, 2011

riverrat10k said:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

at least it is "virtual" not "actual" wholesale slaughter.

Oh, Jimmy, you say the cwaziest things!

Riverrat, if it were upgraded to actual, it would have to be "actual RETAIL slaughter", the worst kind in my book!

Skeptic · Jul 18, 2011

Repeater said:
Has anyone open carried near Moran, perhaps at a townhall meeting? If yes, what was his body language like? How did he treat you?

He seems very bigoted toward self-defense or self-reliance.

He is bigoted against any form of liberty whatsoever.

Remember his quote about "this simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it "? Not to mention his assertion that 20 years of military service is not public service, but the PTA is?

What a scumbum this guy is. Very sad

Skeptic · Jul 18, 2011

CHILINVLN said:
Explain how you think a DUI Checkpoint is a violation of the 4th Amendment.

Explain how you think it isn't a violation of the 4th Amendment? Even Justice Renquist who voted FOR allowing sobriety checkpoints in some certain circumstances agreed that they were an infringement of the 4th amendment, it is simply his opinion that the infringement is outweighed by the public good.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated"

Seems pretty clear. Indiscriminately stopping everyone without probable cause seems to be entirely in keeping with the meaning of the word unreasonable.

HandyHamlet · Jul 18, 2011

Repeater said:
“And we’re promoting it. We’re enabling … that slaughter to continue,” Moran said.

I think by "We" he means him, Holder Jr, the FBI, DEA, and Obummer. If I was him I couldn't live with myself either.

CHILINVLN said:
Explain how you think a DUI Checkpoint is a violation of the 4th Amendment.

"Papers please."

va_tazdad · Jul 19, 2011

Here we go again with the "Doom and Gloom" spews

Repeater said:
House republicans today voted to strip funding for a new Obama administration policy that increases reporting requirements for some gun dealers who sell semi-automatic rifles.

Democrats vehemently opposed Rehberg’s measure, which was supported by the National Rifle Association (NRA). Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) said stripping the funding from the rule would be akin to “virtual wholesale slaughter.”

“The NRA is so afraid that the people who are really funding the NRA, the gun manufacturers, might lose some sales that we’re willing to sacrifice the lives of these people that are casualties of this gun war,” said Moran during the markup.

“And we’re promoting it. We’re enabling … that slaughter to continue,” Moran said.

Would that be the same "wholesale slaughter" the "anti's" claimed would happen last year when it became legal to CC in a bar?

Me thinks they spelled Jim's last name wrong. The correct spelling MUST be Moron.

Grapeshot · Jul 19, 2011

Originally Posted by CHILINVLN

Explain how you think a DUI Checkpoint is a violation of the 4th Amendment.

HandyHamlet said:
"Papers please."

No RAS, no probable cause. Pure fishing expedition.

If it saves just one life..................:banghead:

TFred · Jul 19, 2011

Grapeshot said:
No RAS, no probable cause. Pure fishing expedition.

If it saves just one life..................:banghead:

It's kind of like the receipt checkers at Walmart or at the warehouse stores. Sometimes I ask them "Why are you accusing me of being a criminal?"

TFred

Vanns40 · Jul 21, 2011

Repeater said:
House republicans today voted to strip funding for a new Obama administration policy that increases reporting requirements for some gun dealers who sell semi-automatic rifles.

Democrats vehemently opposed Rehberg’s measure, which was supported by the National Rifle Association (NRA). Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) said stripping the funding from the rule would be akin to “virtual wholesale slaughter.”

“The NRA is so afraid that the people who are really funding the NRA, the gun manufacturers, might lose some sales that we’re willing to sacrifice the lives of these people that are casualties of this gun war,” said Moran during the markup.

“And we’re promoting it. We’re enabling … that slaughter to continue,” Moran said.

This, from an anti-semite with a vile temper who, according to the prosecutor at the time, through the grace of god, just missed being charged with a felony for his dealings in Alexandria.

OC-moto450r · Jul 21, 2011

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