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    Employer preaching about "not allowed on our property" already

    I work for a fortune 50 and we had our monthly plant wide meeting today. They had a slide in there about the corporate rule of "no firearms are allowed on our property including in your vehicle" to address "recent changes in passing of cc in WI". I haven't read the law in depth, isn't it expressly spelled out that employers cannot tell you "no weapons in your vehicle"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kawisixer01
    isn't it expressly spelled out that employers cannot tell you "no weapons in your vehicle"?
    Yes.
    See 175.60 (15m) on the lower right of page 12 of the PDF in the first line of my sig.
    AFAIK, there's no 'teeth' to it, but the language is very plain.
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    Are they aware that after the law goes into effect, they "legally" can't say/do that? I guess you could show them the bill, and have them reconsider. If the company I work for does not change our policy, I will be getting them a copy of the bill.
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    A criminal can have a gun, so why can't I?

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    the company i work for has the same policy "not on company grounds" but that is all going to change soon
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    My boss has no issues with CCW in the office or on company property, in fact he is going to be getting a permit. My boss carries all the time at Work. ok.. I am my Boss ( self employed ) . lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Yes.
    See 175.60 (15m) on the lower right of page 12 of the PDF in the first line of my sig.
    AFAIK, there's no 'teeth' to it, but the language is very plain.
    Not much teeth at all. If someone is discplined or terminated for a company weapons violation that is not legal for them to do, the only recourse is civil litigation for wrongful termination. Something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BROKENSPROKET View Post
    Not much teeth at all. If someone is discplined or terminated for a company weapons violation that is not legal for them to do, the only recourse is civil litigation for wrongful termination. Something like that.
    I was thinking about that because I have a similar issue with schools I'm taking classes at.

    In the case of the school...they couldn't have me arrested for bringing a firearm on campus....but it's still against school policy and they could still expel someone for it. :\

    I'll bet (almost) everyone's employer has things in the company rules / "code of conduct" / whatever that may be "legal" but are still forbidden by company policy. Dress codes spring to mind.
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    Premature Exasperation: Don't let it ruin your good times

    Folks, there's not much to get worked up about prior to Nov. 1rst. Even then, you have to really want a fight with your boss to make this an issue.

    1. The limitation on employer weapon restrictions applies only to CCP holders.
    2. It doesn't take effect until Nov. 1rst.
    3. It applies to "weapon" as defined in the bill -- gun, knife, electric, etc.
    4. When it does take effect, it says that an employer cannot, as a condition of employment, prohibit a permit holder from wearing or storing a weapon in their own vehicle, even while the vehicle is being used on duty and even while the vehicle is traveling or parked in a designated parking area on the employer's property.

    Few employers will change their rules prior to Nov. 1. Even then, many employee policies already contain provisos such as, "enforced in accordance with applicable state and local law." That's especially the case with employers operating in multiple states. They won't bother editing their policies to spell out local exemptions, but will apply the local exemptions when a situation arises involving a potential violation.

    An employer isn't under any obligation to spell out the vehicle exemption for you. They are obligated, however, to apply it if you're in trouble for having a weapon in your vehicle and offer the defense of a valid CCP issued by WI or a recognized state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock34 View Post
    My boss has no issues with CCW in the office or on company property, in fact he is going to be getting a permit. My boss carries all the time at Work. ok.. I am my Boss ( self employed ) . lol
    yeah yeah rub it in
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