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    Motion is raised. Does anyone second the IP ban of logatroll/logables

    I come here for information, insight and common thinking citizens.

    Every thread that Logtard is in, is a complete waste of my time.



    Do I hear a second?
    Poor Obama. All this time, he thought he had been placed in charge of the GovernMINT.

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    Ban hammer.

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    Yep. On my ignore list, though, so I don't really care.

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    I hate to be a dissenting voice, but the Second Amendment to the US Constitution is a guarantee to insure the First Amendment is not abridged. Trolls are "OBOMA"nable, but must be tolerated.
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    Two points in rebuttal, Jim:

    1) The troll isn't contributing, just causing trouble.
    Same as walking up to people on the street & shouting at them, or following them around & contradicting everything they say, or saying things in person just to start a fight.

    2) This is not a gov't forum, so technically we don't have rights here.
    Not that either Mike or John is likely to actually restrict us much in what we talk about, but they could go well beyond the rules in place now.
    If they chose to ban the troll, as well as any other accounts from that IP address (or however they figure that), they could, for any reason or no reason other than "we want to".
    Last edited by MKEgal; 07-16-2011 at 01:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpm84092 View Post
    I hate to be a dissenting voice, but the Second Amendment to the US Constitution is a guarantee to insure the First Amendment is not abridged. Trolls are "OBOMA"nable, but must be tolerated.
    The man who owns this forum can do as he pleases with his own property. Want free speech? Try the public square.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oak1971 View Post
    The man who owns this forum can do as he pleases with his own property. Want free speech? Try the public square.
    You probably need a permit to be a town crier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpm84092 View Post
    I hate to be a dissenting voice, but the Second Amendment to the US Constitution is a guarantee to insure the First Amendment is not abridged. Trolls are "OBOMA"nable, but must be tolerated.
    Hardly applies to a privately owned web site!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grinner View Post
    Yep. On my ignore list, though, so I don't really care.
    hehehe same here, however the "this post is blocked because user is on your ignore list" message is the only thing logables has ever posted that didn't make me want to bash my head into the wall.

    I've noticed consistency for the first time. Before, logables would just post whatever was exactly opposite of the thread. If the thread said "it's sunny outside", I'm sure logables would have something contradictory to say about it.

    I'm on the ban wagon here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Maassen View Post
    I've noticed consistency for the first time. Before, logables would just post whatever was exactly opposite of the thread. .
    Now that you mention it, that sounds about right.
    Poor Obama. All this time, he thought he had been placed in charge of the GovernMINT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logables View Post
    Reported to the Administrator. Rude and harassment.
    Report me all you want. Fact is, you are the worst member of this forum I have seen since my two months of reading, networking, learning.
    Poor Obama. All this time, he thought he had been placed in charge of the GovernMINT.

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    Go Figure....

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Maassen View Post
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    I'm on the ban wagon here.
    That's good, Tom. Now the final nail in his coffin is to avoid commenting on any post that references him(I broke my own rule here just to congratulate you). The problem is that some of the DRAMA QUEENS on this forum won't ignore a troll because they ENJOY their presence... go figure.
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    Tough call....

    I would love to meet it face to face to discuss it's "opinions", and would favor drooping the ban hammer....

    On the other hand, free speech is free speech no matter where... I do agree that this is a privately owned and operated website and the administrators can do as they see fit, so I guess it is their call.

    As I have commited myself to not reply directly to any of it's posts (Ingore being the next step) I think if we ALL do the same it would move on to another site.

    Finally, there is a president that limits free speech (as in not yelling fire in a crowded building) so I say ban the little piss ant...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davegran View Post
    That's good, Tom. Now the final nail in his coffin is to avoid commenting on any post that references him(I broke my own rule here just to congratulate you). The problem is that some of the DRAMA QUEENS on this forum won't ignore a troll because they ENJOY their presence... go figure.
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    You Want to Be Effective and Efficient

    Having the administrators ban by user name is E&E only if the object (1) is too lazy to adopt another user name and (2) register under that name. IP bans may be somewhat more effective but remember (1) a single IP address may service many users and you may block legitimate uses if they happen to have the same ISP (2) it is often possible to obtain a new IP address more quickly than a new user name (3) spoofing IP addresses isn't that difficult (4) an unsecured wireless point may provide access to an irritant even if the owner doesn't know OCDO exists. The ignore option is easy, quick and effective - at least temporarily. A scapel not a meat cleaver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logables View Post
    My opinion.
    Your opinion is precisely your problem. You are loathed by all who know you. You have no friends IRL, and the number that tolorate to even be in your presence, grows fewer by the day. You live now, like a hermit. You post on msg forums to strike debate, as it's the only way people will even come close to having a conversation with you. People avoid you, due to your lack of respect and mindless banter. How miserable you must feel inside.

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    Poor Obama. All this time, he thought he had been placed in charge of the GovernMINT.

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    The Troll munchables THREAD CRAPS. Every single post. Putting MO on the end of it does nothing to cover the stench.

    Thread crapping is usually against a forum's rules. This ain't my non-Green Bay resident FIBWAC hardline opinion. This is fact.

    Drop a hammer on the troll's thread crapping head and put him out of his misery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logables View Post
    The real facts are that because I do not care for the so called const carry is a big reason I get attacked. Because I support the new CC bill completely, because I support the Wisconsin governing body, because I support the DNR are all other reasons I am attacked. I will continue to support the above as long as x amount of posters here continue to complain and cry and bash the above. My opinion
    I would not drop the ban hammer, I would just require a $50.00 fee for a permit to post on this forum for those who wish to continue posting after being classified as a troll. A $50 fee is not that bad. This way those that are not trolls can continue the "constitutional" form of posting without license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40-OD View Post
    I come here for information, insight and common thinking citizens.

    Every thread that Logtard is in, is a complete waste of my time.



    Do I hear a second?
    Then ignore the users that have opinions you disagree with.

    The posts in threads that I have seen are a simply matter of "logables presents a viewpoint different than that of others, and those others attack without provocation."

    logables is the innocent in this. Those who respond poorly are responsible for the "waste of time" aspect. If you don't like logables' posts, don't bother reading them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockman View Post
    I would not drop the ban hammer, I would just require a $50.00 fee for a permit to post on this forum for those who wish to continue posting after being classified as a troll. A $50 fee is not that bad. This way those that are not trolls can continue the "constitutional" form of posting without license.
    renewable in 5 years and issued only after a "background check"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by springfield 1911 View Post
    You probably need a permit to be a town crier.
    So true....
    In God I trust. Everyone else needs to keep your hands where I can see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcrewUH60 View Post
    renewable in 5 years and issued only after a "background check"?
    My omission; Yes.

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