M
McX
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to me it's just a steeeeeenkin tax.
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Carry your CWL when you Open Carry?
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mrjam2jab
Regular Member
You'll see that forever. In PA, it's a "License To Carry Firearms"...issued by the County Sheriffs.
Pretty much everybody in the media and even a LOT of folks INSIDE the sheriffs depts call it a "concealed weapons permit."
Outdoorsman1
Regular Member
Originally I was going to get the permit just for the "school zone thing", but now it seems like there might be a question of the legality of open carry in a vehicle, as to if it would be considered legal open carry, or concealed carry as the sidearm might not be visible from the drivers side window..
:banghead:
So based on the above reasons, I will be getting the permit and will be carrying it with me at ALL times...and open carrying 95 - 98% of the time....
Outdoorsman1
:banghead: So based on the above reasons, I will be getting the permit and will be carrying it with me at ALL times...and open carrying 95 - 98% of the time....
Outdoorsman1
Outdoorsman1
Regular Member
Wow, first Non-Troll comment I have read from logables... (called him by real name due to content of post..)
This is also a seemingly non-troll post....
This post... not so much...
The ONLY reason I broke my self imposed mandate NOT to respond to any if logables posts was that here he had a couple that read ok to me.... If his manner of posting resorts back it his trolling days, I will continue not to feed him by NOT replying to anything he posts...
logables, ... I know, I know, how I feel about you and your posts matters not to you and you will continue posting as you see fit....
Just Sayin...
Outdoorsman1
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BROKENSPROKET
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175.60 (2g) CARRYING A CONCEALED WEAPON; POSSESSION AND DISPLAY OF LICENSE DOCUMENT OR AUTHORIZATION.
(a) A licensee or an out−of−state licensee may carry a concealed weapon anywhere in this state except as provided under subs. (15m) and (16) and ss. 943.13 (1m) (c) and 948.605 (2) (b) 1r.
(b) Unless the licensee or out−of−state licensee is carrying a concealed weapon in a manner described under s. 941.23 (2) (e), a licensee shall have with him or her his or her license document and photographic identification card and an out−of−state licensee shall have with him or her his or her out−of−state license and photographic identification card at all times during which he or she is carrying a concealed weapon.
(c) Unless the licensee or out−of−state licensee is carrying a concealed weapon in a manner described under s. 941.23 (2) (e), a licensee who is carrying a concealed weapon shall display his or her license document and photographic identification card and an out−of−state licensee who is carrying a concealed weapon shall display his or her out−of−state license and photographic identification card to a law enforcement officer upon the request of the law enforcement officer while the law enforcement officer is acting in an official capacity and with lawful authority.
Like I said in the OP, I know what common sense tells me, and I am pretty sure what case law would end up saying, but currently, there is no statutory requirement to have license and ID in your possesion or to show it if you OC in a school zone, bar/restaraunt, or public building. Currently, the only statutory requirement to have it in your possesion and show it is if you carry concealed. Just a little detail they missed. LEO may use this to say you have to conceal it if you carry in a school zone, bar/restaraunt, or public building. IDK.
(a) A licensee or an out−of−state licensee may carry a concealed weapon anywhere in this state except as provided under subs. (15m) and (16) and ss. 943.13 (1m) (c) and 948.605 (2) (b) 1r.
(b) Unless the licensee or out−of−state licensee is carrying a concealed weapon in a manner described under s. 941.23 (2) (e), a licensee shall have with him or her his or her license document and photographic identification card and an out−of−state licensee shall have with him or her his or her out−of−state license and photographic identification card at all times during which he or she is carrying a concealed weapon.
(c) Unless the licensee or out−of−state licensee is carrying a concealed weapon in a manner described under s. 941.23 (2) (e), a licensee who is carrying a concealed weapon shall display his or her license document and photographic identification card and an out−of−state licensee who is carrying a concealed weapon shall display his or her out−of−state license and photographic identification card to a law enforcement officer upon the request of the law enforcement officer while the law enforcement officer is acting in an official capacity and with lawful authority.
Like I said in the OP, I know what common sense tells me, and I am pretty sure what case law would end up saying, but currently, there is no statutory requirement to have license and ID in your possesion or to show it if you OC in a school zone, bar/restaraunt, or public building. Currently, the only statutory requirement to have it in your possesion and show it is if you carry concealed. Just a little detail they missed. LEO may use this to say you have to conceal it if you carry in a school zone, bar/restaraunt, or public building. IDK.
MKEgal
Regular Member
oak1971 said:
You have an even better super power: The Black Stripe! :shocker:jpm84092 said:
Able to tame misbehaving LEOs with a single glance... the thought still makes me smile.
I'm very glad they added that part. The way it was originally written, any LEO could approach anyone at any time with no RAS & demand to see a permit.
And the law requires DOJ to start accepting applications 01SEP, too, but they appear to have no problem ignoring the spirit of that law, either.
I'll probably have it with me most of the time, just like most of my other permits (the ones that fit easily into a purse or pocket).
I'd rather not have the hassle of having to explain to the Nice Officer that carrying in a school zone with a permit is legal,
and no, I don't have to actually have it on me,
and yes, s/he is allowed to call DOJ to verify I have a permit,
and even if s/he chooses not to verify my permit, it's only a ticket (which I would challenge in court),
and no, I do not consent to any searches or seizures (which they don't listen to anyway)...
But if the hassle is about OC, in a place that doesn't require a permit, no, they're not seeing the permit.
Gotta get that into their heads right off.
BROKENSPROKET
Regular Member
Where does it say that? Please provide a citation.
logables
Regular Member
Thank you very much for trying to speak for me. You are so very incorrect by doing so. OR
Since
an application is a prerequisite to a license and there is no date stated by which applications must be made available. We know that one of the following must be true-
(a) DoJ may choose to never make applications (and therefore licenses) available or
(b) DoJ must make applications available by a date determined by some method
Which do you think is correct? If you choose (b), how would you determine the date?
an application is a prerequisite to a license and there is no date stated by which applications must be made available. We know that one of the following must be true-
(a) DoJ may choose to never make applications (and therefore licenses) available or
(b) DoJ must make applications available by a date determined by some method
Which do you think is correct? If you choose (b), how would you determine the date?
BROKENSPROKET
Regular Member
If you want to answer that question for her, provide the citation!
davegran
Regular Member