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    I was asked to leave A club meeting

    After being A member of the Bedrock Prospectors Club for more than three years I walked into the meeting tonite and was told I had to leave because the board of trustees voted that there was no firearms allowed at meetings any longer. So I asked if they were going o start searching peoples pockets.They said that doesn't matter we just dont want you carrying your gun in here any more because some people have complainedand they are afraid. So after being A member for 3 years my membership is good till Dec. but I will no longer attend meetings and I will not renew my membership if they dont want my gun they apperantley dont want my membership dues either.
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    Board of Trustees are extremely MYOPIC

    Silly folks that can't see past the nose on their faces and are willing to cut the same nose off if it gets bumped!

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    Have you been carrying there for the entire three years? Do you have any idea what prompted them to make such a dumb decision? It's a loss for them because there can't be too many prospectors out there to join their group. Do you have any way of appealing their decision, or is it final? They should, at the very least, give you pro-rated membership dues back.
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    Is there a alot of money in prospecting bedrock? I've heard of prospecting for gold, and thought of joining the GPAA or the LDMA. I have seen Tom Macey openly carry on one of his shows at the Cripple Creek Outing.
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    Sorry to hear that. Seems ridiculous since all the old original prospectors were armed most of the time. They had to protect their claims right?
    - Might write them a letter, and ask them how much farther they plan to wander from the old fashioned American values that the original prospectors held.

    Maybe you should suggest that they only use modern equipment and clothing since they obviously don't want to emulate the real deal ...

    - Sorry they are so prissy. At least you held true to the originals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911er View Post
    After being A member of the Bedrock Prospectors Club for more than three years I walked into the meeting tonite and was told I had to leave because the board of trustees voted that there was no firearms allowed at meetings any longer. So I asked if they were going o start searching peoples pockets.They said that doesn't matter we just dont want you carrying your gun in here any more because some people have complainedand they are afraid. So after being A member for 3 years my membership is good till Dec. but I will no longer attend meetings and I will not renew my membership if they dont want my gun they apperantley dont want my membership dues either.
    Was the board action done from an agenda item? Was there advance notice of a motion to ban guns (or OC) from meetings and events? Seems like it would have been fair and appropriate to have your input in the discussion and consideration of the new rule.

    When did you start OCing at the club? Did you get any feedback about it before the board action last night?

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    I have been ocing there since I became A member and I think it all came on because of A change of board members. I asked if it had to be brought up for vote and was told no they make the rules. And it is Bedrock is just the name of the group they are gold prospectors.
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    I had a similar experience with my American Legion Post. A guest of mine OCed into the post and the next month it was voted that no firearms are allowed in the post. I have been a Son of the AL for 17 years and have not been back since, my membership expires in January and I will not renew. Too bad really. Disgusts me a Patriotic organization can't respect the Constitution they have sworn to uphold.

    I fought the decision at the state and national level and nothing they can do about it as all posts are independent to do what they want.
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    How about the "Gun Clubs" that prohibit OC on their premises? Even when shooting, you are not allowed to OC on the range, even if your firearm remains holstered the entire time you are shooting other firearms.
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    Does your bylaws allow them to do this without bringing it to the members first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Does your bylaws allow them to do this without bringing it to the members first?
    The Gun Club I am familiar with has a Board that "runs the show". They have full authority to set rules. This is not uncommon for organizations with "Boards of Directors" as to put everything to the membership would end up in "food fights".

    I always figure that I will put up with the rules if I want to be a part of an organization. At such point I no longer like, or feel like I can follow, the rules, I will just leave. I don't feel the need to belong to clubs and organizations like some do.
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    OC prospecting.

    It would seem to me that being armed while in the woods should be considered a GOOD thing - too many dangers, both four- and two-legged out there.
    And as posted earlier, prospectors can be rolled for their poke.

    I wander around Eastern WA with my trusty shovel and pan...and a sidearm.

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    It never ceases to amaze me that some people can be "scared" of a gun they can see, but they have no fear of ones they can't see. Where is the logic in that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911er View Post
    They said that doesn't matter we just dont want you carrying your gun in here any more...
    So, it's okay for others to carry their guns (as long as they don't know they are carrying). Unbelievable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajetpilot View Post
    So, it's okay for others to carry their guns (as long as they don't know they are carrying). Unbelievable!
    Yea thats what I said. Half the people that voted all carry concealed but think guns should be hidden.
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    An opportune time to start your own club! I would begin by soliciting members of other clubs that are friends of yours.

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    Sorry for the ignorance of the group. have you considered staying and trying to influence from within. or maybe even starting a competitive organization
    like some of the other post, i've even ran into this from so called 2ndA groups

    side note; i was working at a gunshow in Ashvile, NC, and a prospector came by and we got to talking about carry and prospecting at national parks( he is pro carry). he told me a story of a game warden trying to get him for fishing. till he pointed out he wasn't fishing, he was prospecting. then the GW tried to tell him he couldn't carry in the park. he then showed him the rules for carry.
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    I'll bet it was one person that started this. Maybe a personal thing, maybe not: But, honest people have nothing to hide. Those that are not trustworthy or are up to no good, hide what they are doing.

    As this change was directed against you personally, I would ask for my dues back. Just the principle of the thing.
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    Hey 1911, sorry to hear about that. I OC when I go to the WWGPAA meetings no problem. I just got back from an outing at Money Creek with a mixture of GPAA and Bedrock people, and OC'ed the whole time with out a word.
    Seamus was our leader for the outing. So come on over to WWGPAA. It amazes me a group of prospectors would be anti since we are outdoor type people who are always fighting for our rights. For those that are not familiar,
    our prospecting rights here in WA are almost as bad as the gun/prospecting rights in CA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golddigger14s View Post
    Hey 1911, sorry to hear about that. I OC when I go to the WWGPAA meetings no problem. I just got back from an outing at Money Creek with a mixture of GPAA and Bedrock people, and OC'ed the whole time with out a word.
    Seamus was our leader for the outing. So come on over to WWGPAA. It amazes me a group of prospectors would be anti since we are outdoor type people who are always fighting for our rights. For those that are not familiar,
    our prospecting rights here in WA are almost as bad as the gun/prospecting rights in CA.
    The meetings are on the 2nd sat right.
    I truly Love my Country, But the government scares the he!! out of me.

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    Thumbs up Evidently, not all prospecting clubs are the same.

    Evidently, not all prospecting clubs are the same. As an instructor, I was invited by one of my students to speak at his prospecting club about firearm laws and carrying firearm. The presentation was well recieved. They actually seemed quite knowledgeable about firearms and gun issues. I had a hunch. I asked how many carry a firearm when they are out prospecting and just about everyone of them raised their hand.

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    1911er,

    If you have a moment could you answer some of the questions posed in this thread? Mainly wht is the process for a board decision and can you appeal it? I know you answered a bit by sayin it was caused by a board member change. Does your club not have formal rules? Boards of Directors are typically elected. Thanks and good luck.
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    they sure are

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSparky View Post
    Silly folks that can't see past the nose on their faces and are willing to cut the same nose off if it gets bumped!
    I agree with your statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Ryder View Post
    ...his prospecting club ... I asked how many carry a firearm when they are out prospecting and just about everyone of them raised their hand.
    Interesting. Were they all OCing while prospecting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    1911er,

    If you have a moment could you answer some of the questions posed in this thread? Mainly wht is the process for a board decision and can you appeal it? I know you answered a bit by sayin it was caused by a board member change. Does your club not have formal rules? Boards of Directors are typically elected. Thanks and good luck.
    The only people that are elected to the board are the" clique members" and If they want A new law passed they say that" only the board has to vote because it has to do with the saftey of the club"or it has to do with keeping the land lord happy
    I truly Love my Country, But the government scares the he!! out of me.

    DEMAND IT
    Congress SHALL NOT receive A salary greater than any service member and will be given EQUIVELANT insurance as any service member

    I came into this world kicking and screaming covered in someone else's blood. And if necessary to protect the Constitution of The United States of AMERICA. I will go out the same way

    All hail the Domain of Neptunus Rex

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