riverrat10k
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Fire him and take away his RKBA. That will keep him in check.
Oh, right, I forgot. Criminals don't follow the law!
Oh, right, I forgot. Criminals don't follow the law!
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Video: Police officer threatens concealed-carry driver with execution, beating; Updat
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papa bear
Regular Member
this video was a class room example of what the "drug of power can induce. much like an upper or PCP. it seems to make the abuser think they are invincible. as far as him snagging a position some where else, one of the things about the internet is that any future employer is going to do a search and this video will come up. hopefully it will have an effect
Now, another thing this video is going to teach people is how not to react when confronted by CLEO. he was saying too much of the wrong thing. i know he was scared and by how the C LEO acted afterward, i understand. it must be how all C-LE in the area are
IMO, "must notify law" is definitely a violation of constitutional rights, how do you how the right to remain silent if you are, by law, forced to talk. lets say you accidentally go into a prohibited area. and are addressed by civilian law officer. if you tell them you have a firearm, you are incriminating yourself. definitely a breach of the 5thA
Now, another thing this video is going to teach people is how not to react when confronted by CLEO. he was saying too much of the wrong thing. i know he was scared and by how the C LEO acted afterward, i understand. it must be how all C-LE in the area are
IMO, "must notify law" is definitely a violation of constitutional rights, how do you how the right to remain silent if you are, by law, forced to talk. lets say you accidentally go into a prohibited area. and are addressed by civilian law officer. if you tell them you have a firearm, you are incriminating yourself. definitely a breach of the 5thA
tyc
Regular Member
Long ago I was taught that the most dangerous thing in America - is a small town cop with a gun.
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riverrat10k
Regular Member
Nice arguement, there, papa bear. You definitely have the right not to self-incriminate. Hmmmm.
I know you have a notify if pulled law in NC. We do not in VA.
I know you have a notify if pulled law in NC. We do not in VA.
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Kirbinator
Regular Member
There is an angry man in that video. I would be in fear for my life.
When I am around angry people and I fear for my life, I start looking for ways out. My last resort is my pistol.
He just made the case for a self-defense shooting against a police officer.
When I am around angry people and I fear for my life, I start looking for ways out. My last resort is my pistol.
He just made the case for a self-defense shooting against a police officer.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Is that Urquhart? The guy that said stopping OC'ers is justified? Or something to that effect has been sometime, hopefully he has realigned his thoughts with the constitution and our natural rights.
fjpro2a
Regular Member
Need to know the outcome
We should start a thread notifying us of the outcome of ALL leo encounters similar to this. I never seem to know the outcome of any of these. For instance, does anyone know the outcome of the incident that took place in Jan or Feb of 2010 in California concerning LEO Rod Tuason?
We should start a thread notifying us of the outcome of ALL leo encounters similar to this. I never seem to know the outcome of any of these. For instance, does anyone know the outcome of the incident that took place in Jan or Feb of 2010 in California concerning LEO Rod Tuason?
Large Caliber Kick
Regular Member
Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought an officer was required to read someone their rights before questioning them in cuffs in the back of a cruiser. I must have been too deaf to hear that 45 second speech at 120 decibles.
papa bear
Regular Member
can't take credit for the self-incriminating idea, JAG06 posed that one .
yeah that is another thing i like about VA gun-law and another why i like open carry. it seems any where you have wussy legislators you get this stupid law. NC do seem to stay behind VA, maybe some day soon they will catch up
I wondered that also, the raging COP just grilled (more like badgered) the guy and the guy keep answering, too bad there. In the no one getting hurt category, I’m thinking out of all the videos posted I’ve never seen an officer more belligerent and out of control, I think his rage had him close to harming.
More of the story here.
http://www.cantonrep.com/carousel/x...er-investigation-after-concealed-carry-arrest
also see:
http://www.cantoncourt.org/criminal/index.html
type in Bartlett Willaim
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sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
This is a good point and I'd like to expand on it, that this is why many end up surrendering their 5thA right. If this guy decided to politely decline to answer, the cops actions showed he may very well have done harm to him.
BaconMan
Regular Member
The officer was way over the top and out of control on this one. He needs a few days to think about what he did and some training on dealing with people during traffic stops. :banghead:
eye95
Well-known member
Remove the context and substitute the context of two non-LEOs. Would training and suspension suffice? Or were the actions criminal? LEOs have the authority to do things that ordinary citizens do not--but only when that authority is specifically granted by the law. Once they step outside their described role, then their actions are not protected by their authority. They are just another citizen--one who is criminally liable for breaking the law.
ARADCOM
Regular Member
Retraining??
So you think he needs retraining? Tell you what, the next time you're out OC'ing and see a cop I want you to try this:
SCREAM at him, As soon as I saw your gun I should have took two steps back, pulled my Glock 40 and just put 10 bullets in your ass and let you drop. And I wouldn’t have lost any sleep. Do you understand me?”
Let me know where they send you for the retraining and how many years they send you for.
So you think he needs retraining? Tell you what, the next time you're out OC'ing and see a cop I want you to try this:
SCREAM at him, As soon as I saw your gun I should have took two steps back, pulled my Glock 40 and just put 10 bullets in your ass and let you drop. And I wouldn’t have lost any sleep. Do you understand me?”
Let me know where they send you for the retraining and how many years they send you for.
Gunslinger
Regular Member
He needs about 3-5 in OH State Prison for Criminal Threatening, Battery and Terrorist Activity. He is a pos who belongs in a cage, not carrying a gun.
Gunslinger
Regular Member
“We’re a very well-trained and well-rounded police department that has solid officers that can make good, solid decisions every day,”
Union Dirtbag hits the nail on the head. This must not have happened...
Union Dirtbag hits the nail on the head. This must not have happened...
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
+1 Especially since they are part of the "government" they are supposed to be constitutionally limited.
MKEgal
Regular Member
When I was arrested for OC 04JUL10, they didn't read me my rights until at least an hour had passed (from when they first illegally stopped me).Large Caliber Kick said:
Already cuffed & stuffed,
taken to the PD,
fingerprinted, photographed, questioned...
then they read me my rights & questioned me some more.
The next nonconsensual encounter I had w/ LEO, I pretty much shut up.
Since their crimes against me are on audio, & I knew this time I had a good lawyer, I wasn't nervous.
Furious, but not nervous.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Shutting up is the key. And it gets easier every encounter that comes. The what seems like a hurricane force of pressure to "cooperate" goes away when you win one, and you absolutely know you are in the right.
MKE we need to start a illegally arrested club......but I guess that means we would have to allow Eye in too......
