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    OC Table & The Puyallup Gun Show 7/30 - 7/31

    I have to work that weekend & Deros, GogoDawgs are tied up on Saturday 7/30 with another event. I can get the table set up on Friday so it's ready for the weekend but I need folks on hand for Sat/Sun.

    Any volunteers? If I know who by Thursday night, I can get you added to the vendor list on Friday so you can get in early and bypass the line.

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    Seriously guys??? No responses?? C'mon, step up. Unless you guys are all talk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderTattoo View Post
    Seriously guys??? No responses?? C'mon, step up. Unless you guys are all talk...

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    Believe it or not Jeff, some of us have responded by PM or telephone.

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    never been to the gun show. We can't carry in there? according to the website..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan903 View Post
    never been to the gun show. We can't carry in there? according to the website..
    As long as you are a member, you can carry but it has to be unloaded and the action zip tied.

    ** before the bashing begins, its a private organization. Not one gun show across the state allows loaded firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1Gunr View Post
    As long as you are a member, you can carry but it has to be unloaded and the action zip tied.

    ** before the bashing begins, its a private organization. Not one gun show across the state allows loaded firearms.
    Good to know! thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan903 View Post
    We can't carry in there? according to the website..
    That's right -- it's for the safety of the... um... CHILDREN!
    Last edited by 44Brent; 07-26-2011 at 07:16 PM.

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    Change in work plans. It looks like, possibly, maybe I will be there on Sat and definitely there on Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by massivedesign View Post
    Working on the wife....... making progress.
    Cool, I'm working on my wife too. Probably 2 or 3 times...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan903 View Post
    never been to the gun show. We can't carry in there? according to the website..
    I went to one WAC show, paid money to get in afterthey made me take my firearm back to my car. Then they wanted more money if I wanted to by a firearm or use my inalienable rights. I didnt want to California carry as I know that would suck to be a californian.

    Quote Originally Posted by M1Gunr View Post
    As long as you are a member, you can carry but it has to be unloaded and the action zip tied.

    ** before the bashing begins, its a private organization. Not one gun show across the state allows loaded firearms.
    sorry too late... Pay money to render your firearm useless? Maybe we should write a letter for a corporate policy. If a store would do this we would put them on a do not patronize list. So if businesses that dont allow carry tell you "If you pay an extra fee you, unload and tie you slide back you can carry, that would be ok with everyone?


    Quote Originally Posted by 44Brent View Post
    That's right -- it's for the safety of the... um... CHILDREN!
    They dont profile, it's for the safety of EVERYONE...
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    I, for one, do not let the WAC policy bother me. After having been a member for 20+ years, I have seen enough unsafe gun handling by the visitors AND members, that I would not want them having a loaded firearm while near me, my family or friends, and of course the children.
    Simple solution......as stated before MANY TIMES......If you don't like it DON'T PARTICIPATE.
    There are ways around the rule, concealed means concealed. If you are found to be packing a hot gun, what are they going to do? Kick you out. Will you be trespassed? I doubt it. Maybe some of you are just too paranoid for your own good. You talk about personal rights and safety, yet at the same time you want to deny those very things to a PRIVATE organization. A bit two faced if you ask me, which you did not.
    Once again, if you don't agree, DON'T PARTICIPATE, you will not be missed.
    Now, I think I will have another glass of Kool Aid.
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    If you are found to be carrying a loaded weapon you will most likely have your membership revoked if you're a member. If not a member, you'll be escorted out.
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    [QUOTE=SpyderTattoo;1581393]SNIP...Seriously guys??? No responses?? C'mon, step up. Unless you guys are all talk.../QUOTE]

    Don't think those words of encouragement will help much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    I, for one, do not let the WAC policy bother me. After having been a member for 20+ years, I have seen enough unsafe gun handling by the visitors AND members, that I would not want them having a loaded firearm while near me, my family or friends, and of course the children.
    Simple solution......as stated before MANY TIMES......If you don't like it DON'T PARTICIPATE.
    There are ways around the rule, concealed means concealed. If you are found to be packing a hot gun, what are they going to do? Kick you out. Will you be trespassed? I doubt it. Maybe some of you are just too paranoid for your own good. You talk about personal rights and safety, yet at the same time you want to deny those very things to a PRIVATE organization. A bit two faced if you ask me, which you did not.
    Once again, if you don't agree, DON'T PARTICIPATE, you will not be missed.
    Now, I think I will have another glass of Kool Aid.
    There is alot of unsafe gun handling practices among the general public from people who have been giving CPL's but eveyone will jump on the bandwagon against more required training, and permits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    There is alot of unsafe gun handling practices among the general public from people who have been giving CPL's but eveyone will jump on the bandwagon against more required training, and permits.
    Don't forget that they are leasing the fairgrounds for the weekend. Do you really think that the fair would not specify in their contract that no loaded weapons would be allowed except for paid security and law enforcement? Who knows what the policy will be once they get their own space finished. The board will decide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    I, for one, do not let the WAC policy bother me. After having been a member for 20+ years, I have seen enough unsafe gun handling by the visitors AND members, that I would not want them having a loaded firearm while near me, my family or friends, and of course the children.
    You remind me of what I saw this past Sat when leaving the Monroe show. I was dumbfounded, and ready to duck. My wife and I just left the building and were nearing the ticket booth, approaching was a guy (member, had his badge on) with pistol in hand and unloading. Itís normal right? I donít think so, this guy held his gun chest level pointing down range to the left while he dumped the mag, and emptied a round out of the chamber.
    I didnít tell my wife we just cheated death, because the final destination movies get to her. I also felt bad on the way home as I thought about it; as a member I should have said something to him (but I suppose I was a bit preoccupied getting the hell away from him), or reported Mr. walking death. Donít they have clearing barrel/traps/stations at the entrance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderTattoo View Post
    Seriously guys??? No responses?? C'mon, step up. Unless you guys are all talk...

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    This organazation is no different than many others that I have been involved with, about 5% of the members (if that) do everything without them not much if anything at all would get done. Most are all talk my guess is that some of the most opinionated dont even OC unless its at a meet. Seriously you are wasting your time SpyderTattoo. Remember this if the stuff ever hits the fan most will run and hide, most will not be there for you, most will not risk their freedom, most will wear their chains willingly, sad but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan View Post
    This organazation is no different than many others that I have been involved with, about 5% of the members (if that) do everything without them not much if anything at all would get done. Most are all talk my guess is that some of the most opinionated dont even OC unless its at a meet. Seriously you are wasting your time SpyderTattoo. Remember this if the stuff ever hits the fan most will run and hide, most will not be there for you, most will not risk their freedom, most will wear their chains willingly, sad but true.
    More encouragment I see

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    Quote Originally Posted by tombrewster421 View Post
    Don't forget that they are leasing the fairgrounds for the weekend. Do you really think that the fair would not specify in their contract that no loaded weapons would be allowed except for paid security and law enforcement? Who knows what the policy will be once they get their own space finished. The board will decide.
    I cannot speak for WAC, but I would expect to see the same policy re carry.

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    ........ never mind........

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1Gunr View Post
    ........ never mind........
    Same old arguments every month. Yet those who say the same things never come to the show. Never come to meets. Never do anything except start and argument that has been stated before. And they know it, yet they sit behind their computers and blah, blah, blah...

    Again, as I challenged NavyLCDR, I will challenge others. Come to the show. If I have to pay your entry I will, get off your rear end and help promote gun rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogodawgs View Post
    SNIP...Come to the show. If I have to pay your entry I will,...
    No need to pay his way, NavyLCDR only needs to bring a wig, I'll pass him of as my ole lady. Just kidding John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Come up to Stanwood and help me move into my new house in time to make the gun show and I will!

    However, I will ask one question, and this is serious.

    Why is WAC not included in this list?:
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...-that-Ban-Guns

    Is it because they allow guns, but only ban loaded guns that can be used for self protection? If there was a mom & pop restaurant that had a sign on the door that said, "All guns must be unloaded and checked by management prior to entering" would we put them on the list? Would everyone who goes to the WAC gunshows also dine in that restaurant that had the same conditions for entry?
    Apples and oranges and you know it. False, strawman argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    You remind me of what I saw this past Sat when leaving the Monroe show. I was dumbfounded, and ready to duck. My wife and I just left the building and were nearing the ticket booth, approaching was a guy (member, had his badge on) with pistol in hand and unloading. Itís normal right? I donít think so, this guy held his gun chest level pointing down range to the left while he dumped the mag, and emptied a round out of the chamber.
    I didnít tell my wife we just cheated death, because the final destination movies get to her. I also felt bad on the way home as I thought about it; as a member I should have said something to him (but I suppose I was a bit preoccupied getting the hell away from him), or reported Mr. walking death. Donít they have clearing barrel/traps/stations at the entrance?
    He wouldnt have even touched it if they didnt require him to be unloaded. Not excusing his stupidity for where he unloaded, but he probably would have walked around never have laid a finger on it if they allowed loaded carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    You remind me of what I saw this past Sat when leaving the Monroe show. I was dumbfounded, and ready to duck. My wife and I just left the building and were nearing the ticket booth, approaching was a guy (member, had his badge on) with pistol in hand and unloading. Itís normal right? I donít think so, this guy held his gun chest level pointing down range to the left while he dumped the mag, and emptied a round out of the chamber.
    I didnít tell my wife we just cheated death, because the final destination movies get to her. I also felt bad on the way home as I thought about it; as a member I should have said something to him (but I suppose I was a bit preoccupied getting the hell away from him), or reported Mr. walking death. Donít they have clearing barrel/traps/stations at the entrance?
    Well, since I was working that gunshow, I sure would have (and so would any security or other employee) appreciated it if you would have brought that to our attention so we could deal with that member and his unsafe actions. We provide a bullet trap at each door so people can safely empty the weapon. We'd sure like to know if any members are not being safe...
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