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    Norway shooting

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...-accounts.html

    Very scary how someone could show up dressed like a cop and kill innocent victims. Its unfortunate no one there was carry to at least provide people an opportunity to defend themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xmanhockey7 View Post
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...-accounts.html

    Very scary how someone could show up dressed like a cop and kill innocent victims. Its unfortunate no one there was carry to at least provide people an opportunity to defend themselves.
    Yeah, police response time was pitiful too. They got there just in time to zip up all the body bags. Imagine what would have happened if everyone there was armed. Of course, that will never happen, so let's just imagine what would happen if 4 people there were armed. What about ONE person armed. It could have at least given them a chance. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

    From his manifesto and video postings, it sounds like the shooter was fed up with his pro-multiculturism (sharia tolerant) socialist government and wanted to start a revolution. As I understand it, his reason for killing those teens was he was attempting to wipe out the next generation of the socialist ruling elite before they came to power (sort of like Terminator, minus the machines and time travel). Then it was his intent to be taken alive and to use the trial as a means to spread his views and recruit other revolutionaries. Unfortunately for him, that makes him a terrorist, not a patriot.

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    My hope is, that out of this terrible tragety, perhaps some better gun rights will come to those in Norway. Maybe so the nextime somebody goes off the deep end, the victims have a chance to protect themselves and others while waiting for the police to show up...

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    Mr Seer ** The POLICE did show up, if you read the article they said the killer was dressed as a police officer .

    So the next time we see a police officer, the question should be is he a officer (or) a killer ?

    And the second question should be, if you where there and armed, do you 1) shoot the officer, or the killer, oh that's right they are ?

    2) wait to take the time to access the situation, or get shot yourself to realize that he is indeed a killer & not a officer shooting a criminal...

    It is kind of like the sheep trusting the sheep dog, then getting ate by the sheep dog.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyh Seer View Post
    My hope is, that out of this terrible tragety, perhaps some better gun rights will come to those in Norway. Maybe so the nextime somebody goes off the deep end, the victims have a chance to protect themselves and others while waiting for the police to show up...
    I doubt it. In countries over there when stuff like this happens they propose strong gun control.
    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
    - Miranda vs Arizona 384 US 436

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    Norway already has bad gun control as it is. That blows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pullnshoot25 View Post
    Norway already has bad gun control as it is. That blows.
    that was my take on it too. correct me if i am wrong Norway's gun laws are near Great Britons. So, if people in Norway can't have explosive and firearms, doesn't that mean, this could not have happened?

    after all, according to the "Brady like" bunches, they are just preventing things like this from happening. and to make this country more like our peaceful European brothers.

    sorry, couldn't help the sarcasm
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    Well said, Kubel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastiff69 View Post
    So the next time we see a police officer, the question should be is he a officer (or) a killer ?
    Exactly what I was thinking... perhaps we can bring that up when someone says they only allow leos to carry in their place of business: "How do we know that they truly are Police Officers and not a "copycat" of the Norway shooter?"
    Giving up our liberties for safety is the one sure way to let the violent among us win.

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