I hope PPD releases all the video to clear the air. This is all the defense team released...
Seems like the family / defense team are trying to have the case decided in the court of public opinion.'
Comments below the fold on the PPH article are priceless, as usual. Lots of **** talking by some ******* who probably never left the FOB.
Last edited by ep0k; 07-25-2011 at 04:58 PM.
Really not enough detail to know what really happened. Clearly the guy was up to no good. Hard to know if the officer felt his life was in danger or not. I agree that the police should release the rest of the video in order to clear things up.
"When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away."
He was obviously running to hide something from the police.. I notice that on the website, they tout.. "This is a shooting of someone (a brother, a son, a friend) who posed no threat to anyone at the time he was shot, and was peacefully apprehended shortly afterwards."
I disagree that he was not a threat to anyone. He posed no threat to the officers at that point in time, but tearing ass away in your car to run from the police makes him a danger to others. I don't give a rats behind that he was peacefully apprehended a short time later either. From what it looks like, he even let the officer step away from the vehicle a bit before tearing away.
At any rate, I don't believe the LEO here had any reason to open fire on this person, not yet anyway. It's nearly a pretty clear car chase scenario, not any reason to be shooting from what we've been given here. Is the victim alive? Well, good.. Then the entire reason the police were stopping him to begin with (RO violation), can be taken care of in court, and hopefully he'll be locked away for being the criminal he is..
IMHO, I'd chalk this one up to stupid criminal, but still no reason for the LEO to attempt to execute him right there on the spot.
In and of itself, running from the police certainly shouldn't constitute an automatic death sentence. As with a lot of things, we're looking at this from the outside as objective observers. The standard a jury would have to apply is reasonableness from the officer's perspective. Just based on the video, it's really difficult to say how threatened the LEO felt when he fired those shots. We can see that the car was unlikely to hit him, but it was certainly turning in the direction of the officers. Hard for anyone to say how they would have reacted in his shoes.
What some people don't realize is that Police are sometimes authorized to use deadly force in a situation where a civilian would not be authorized to use deadly force. I believe this situation may fall into that category.
That being said I usally side with LEO and give them a little wiggle room. He wasn't affraid the driver would hurt someone next month or a hour from then if anything he overreacted due to lack of experence. I'm curious to know how long he has been on patrol, he looked real young. If nothing else I hope he learned something from this and doesn't shoot anyone else in the back.
I hate people that run and you can ask my wife I feel that anyone that puts people in danger from a high speed chase should get a 20 year min sentance with a tatoo of child molester on their forhead and put in general pop. I'm just saying this screams cover-up.
I can also understand why he would fire even as the suspect is fleeing, especially if he was making that decision as the car was still approaching his position.
Not saying I ever believe an officer should shoot someone in the back, but I can at least understand how this might have happened (and why he might be very paranoid about it immediately afterward, looking at his actions and realizing that it might be very hard to justify). That doesn't excuse any attempt at covering it up though. Full disclosure on this will probably not happen until after the trial, if ever...
Last edited by ep0k; 07-25-2011 at 11:08 PM.
Those twelve year olds we occasionally read about joy-riding and too scared to stop? Bang!
That guy who was speeding and didn't want to stop? Bang!
That soccer mom who just wanted to drive to a well lit area because it was an unmarked police car? Bang!
Do you have a cite for your position?
Last edited by Citizen; 07-26-2011 at 01:41 AM.